PRESS RELEASE: TomTom Launches Navigator 3

Dave · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:17 pm Post subject:

No TeleAtlas product will currently, I'm not sure about NavTech.

icsys · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:37 pm Post subject:

Dave · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject:

I've just checked D3 (not latest roundabout fixed version) it doesn't support M6 toll road either, which suggests that no GPS company will be supporting it in NavTech or TeleAtlas maps.

Leeus · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:43 am Post subject:

Anyways the M6 toll did not open till end of November 2003 anyway!

So its no way going to be in oct 2003 data!! :D

SimonCatlin · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:21 am Post subject: M6 Toll issue

If we created a POI with the junctions on and in TTN3, which allows you to create an itineray (sic), then you could get a rough time line and direction, but not the M6 Toll road.

Do we think that this may work?
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Dave · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:28 am Post subject:

It won't work because you'll be trying to route yourself off onto other roads or roads that aren't there. You could use it as a visual to see where the M6 toll road goes but not for navigation.

Darren · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:31 am Post subject:

We pressed this point hard with TomTom. They explained that it was the map data providers (in their case TeleAtlas) who do not have the data available and so denied responsibility and we had to explain that whilst this may be the case, endusers don't always see the seperation and it will be TomTom who get the flack for this.

Neither TeleAtlas not Navtech have M6 Toll Road Data in their latest map release, they insist in 'driving' the road rather than getting an advance by using the planning data prior to reoad completion and so with a 6-8mth lead time on the release of the data to software companies and an average 6mth lead time on release of a new or updated product incorporating the new data it will be at least 12 months from the opening of the M6 Toll before we see it on our maps Sad

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Dave · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:40 am Post subject:

I agree, we should be looking at a minimum of 12 months, possibly even up to 18 months before companies get it (depending on when their software releases are and when the geodata gets out to them).

People could wait to say TTN4, and boycott it, but when you purchase TTN4, there are also going to be other roads that aren't in there either so it's a catch 22 situation. Street Routing applications are always going to have maps a good 12-18 months out of date, there's absolutely nothing that can be done about this apart from going back to paper maps, and you'll find due to printing costs and times that most maps are also out by similar timescales.

anglefire · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:42 am Post subject:

RoyC · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:30 am Post subject:

I agree with what has been said about the M6 Toll and feel that a bit of forward planning by TeleAtlas would have been the answer.

There is another side to this coin , however, in that TT allows a user to select Shortest or Quickest route but I can well imagine someone complaining about being taken on the M6 Toll because while shorter and quicker is is also MORE EXPENSIVE. This then raises the issue of whether TT should compute travel COST as well as distance or time. This would lead on to a more detailed analysis of roads and the need to define different MPG for different road types and for different vehicles.

Maybe next time....

Roy

Fletch · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:55 am Post subject:

Roy,

valid point, However i live two minuets from T6 of this Toll road ( knocks 30mins of a journey in to the centre of Birmingham for me and is , if im in a rush, worth the 2 squid) But all of the surrounding roads have been changed there are new islands where before there wasn't, roads have been changed closed blocked etc and the area in general has completely changed this goes through out the 27 miles of this new road, teleatlas should pull there finger out and get these maps updated, I live in a road that has been here for 15 years its still marked on there data as unknown and the access to the road is incorrect!! Crying or Very sad

Fletch
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Fletch · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:02 am Post subject:

Minutes in time

NOT

Minuets a stately dance

Fletch

BrianA · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:04 pm Post subject:

Dave · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:08 pm Post subject:

bigfatjohn · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject:

Anybody know if the A43 Silverstone bypass is in?

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