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NXS-Bullseye Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jun 23, 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: UK Legal Advice |
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Traveling between Bewicke and Edinburgh on the A1, its a dual carriage way with plenty of cameras as my pda TT5 running database displayed.
Now I was traveling with cruise control at 70-75 depending on road incline with no other traffic for about 1/4 of a mile on either direction, when camera on the opposite side flashed, but no warning from pda as it was setup to only alert if on route.
Now, if I get the winning letter with 3 points and £60 for Tony Blair's retirement party, do I have a legal leg to stand on?
I always thought cameras where setup to detect speeding on their side of the road and flash the car from behind?
Any help appreciated. |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I always thought cameras where setup to detect speeding on their side of the road and flash the car from behind? |
As has been in the press recently cameras are now being installed that photograph from the front to aid recognition.
I would go to http://www.pepipoo.com/ and ask there as they specialise in this sort of thing. |
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BBQKing Regular Visitor
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 133 Location: Sandy, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Speedometers over-read your speed. If you are travelling along at 70MPH, your true speed will be approx 2-3 mph less. 70 for me is actually 67mph according to my GPS systems I use in the car.
If the SCP for that area stick to the "10% + 2" rule, then it is unlikely you will get an NIP - for a 70 zone, and using the above, 79MPH would be minimum speed they would start handing them out. Be aware, not every area will use this guideline. _________________ "To Err Is Human - To Really Foul Things Up Requires A Computer! (or SatNav)" |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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If the camera was on the nearside verge of the opposite carriageway then you will almost certainly not be prosecuted. It is more likely that a vehicle on that carriageway triggered it and assuming it's a GATSO it's type approved for rear facing photography only. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Now, if I get the winning letter with 3 points and £60 for Tony Blair's retirement party, do I have a legal leg to stand on? |
Wondered what every one was one about then realised i missed the IF in "Now, if I get the winning letter with 3 points and £60"!!!
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GJF Frequent Visitor
Joined: Feb 08, 2007 Posts: 894
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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NXS-Bullseye wrote:
Quote: | when camera on the opposite side flashed, |
I have past a "Gatso" camera in Canterbury, Kent, twice in the last six months going in the "wrong" (facing it, not going past it to flash me from behind as designed) direction - and i was flashed, despite no other vehicles around.
On both occassions i was borderline on speed, the first time, although i had known that the camera was a "Gatso" i was so surprised to see the flash that i turned around to check the camera to see it it had been changed to a "Truvelo" (the camera that flashes from the front) but no it was still a "Gatso".
I have never received anything in the post and still have no idea as to why it happened, other than the camera might have a fault. _________________ TomTom Go 60
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mexico2 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jul 06, 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:03 am Post subject: |
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I have been flashed going towards a camera on that stretch of road even though the speedo was just a few mph over limit.....didn't receive the dreaded N.I.P.
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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mexico2 Just a gentle reminder that commercial links are not permitted, please have a quick read of the forum rules here. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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There's a conventional rear-facing Gatso on Chiswick Bridge that takes a BIG overspeed to trigger normally, but seems to have a real liking for motorbikes going in the opposite direction!
Also, if you think about it, the second flash will probably miss you completely if you are going in the opposite direction, plus there won't be any confirmation lines painted in the position you would be in either. |
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