Change in UK Law to Render Mobile Database Useless?

GJF · Frequent Visitor Joined: Feb 08, 2007 Posts: 894

This thread has certainly opened a can of worms 5 pages in one day.
Missed it due to work, but would like to add my "penny worth".

1) Does everybody think that things are going to change that drastic overnight, remember the Police or its sub contractors are not going to go out and buy vast amounts of extra vehicles to "double their money".

2) There is still only a limit of where they can park up with the mobile, normally along a straight or fast run, so unless the driver needs a sight test normally reasonable seen ahead.

3) It is rare that they can "hide" behind trees with a white van and if mob handed with a tripod are even more on view.

I think some of you are getting totally paranoid, as for the "Holier Than Thou" brigade - interesting but not a lot you can say in return, wish i was a "fly on the wall" when they are driving.

Going back to the original topic -
Change in UK Law to Render Mobile Database Useless?

classy56 · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject:

classy56 · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject:

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This change will have NO EFFECT -- why?

1) the existing guidelines are just that - NOT LAW - no partnership has to follow them whatever the back-room lawyers say.
2) the existing guidelines allow cameras well over a mile from the 'accident blackspot' - in London they can put them anywhere within the rules.
3) they will still be creatures of habit and the sites will appear on the database.

The real problem is the likes of Cumbria's Camera Partnership which use methods not approved by the system manufacturer and flout the manuals - they are one of the highest earners (despite being a very small force with low collision rates) because their location at the extreme end of England means that many of their victim's pay rather than travel hundreds of miles to challenge the case. Most partnerships drop a case in the case of a minor flaw in the evidence - Cumbria don't because their geographical location means they are rarely challenged.

Colin21 · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:

My comment about the over use of speed cameras is that I am not a "PERFECT" driver. What I do try is to do my best to drive with consideration to all other people who may cross my path and respect the laws of the road.

However being a normal human there are times that I err. If I cause an accident or worse a death then I expect to be punished.

With speed cameras I find it offensive that the only wrong I may commit is breaking a rule for a brief moment but do no real harm then I get punished. Can anyone give any exact speed that will result in a death as we get no leeway if we exceed these arbitory speed limits.

I try my best to keep to the correct speed but it is all to easy to go over the set speed at the detriment of defensive driving and observing all the signs, other vehicles, pedestrians and a host of other distractions

If the view is that Speed Kills the the Police should obey the same limits. Even the best driver is unable to stop for a person who walks across a road from a place they cannot be seen.

It is not 'Speed that Kills' otherwise if the high number of caught speeders all killed someone the death rate would be unsustainable.

Poor judgment including speed and inattention are high on my list causes of accidents

keithjeffrey · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject:

I drive in excess of 60,000 miles per year and to my mind the roads are MORE dangerous , now that there are these speed/safety cameras.
My reason for saying this is that I spend more time looking at my speedometer to make sure that I am not exceeding the given speed as I approach and pass these cameras , than I do actually looking at the road.
If I am doing that , you can be sure that every vehicle in front of me is doing the same and so are the vehicles behind....... I don't think that sounds very SAFE at all !!!
I am not a " serial speeder " but with these speed/safety cameras you don't have to be.
You only have to be a few MPH above the given speed limit and FLASH , all over , sit back and wait for the points and the fine to drop through your letterbox.
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classy56 · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject:

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classy56 · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject:

Why is it that every question I ask that would blow the myth that speeding is ok goes unanswered and you all comeback avoiding the questions and instead trying to be sarcastic and smartarses?

Just a thought 8O

BTW I answer like for like, get smart with me expect it back Wink

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