Home PageFacebookRSS News Feed
PocketGPS
Web
SatNav,GPS,Navigation
SurfShark VPN
Pocket GPS World - SatNavs | GPS | Speed Cameras: Forums

Pocket GPS World :: View topic - Relying on TMC? Better be careful!
 Forum FAQForum FAQ   SearchSearch   UsergroupsUsergroups   ProfileProfile   Log in for private messagesLog in for private messages   Log inLog in 

Relying on TMC? Better be careful!
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Pocket GPS World Forum Index -> News And Latest Information
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
lbendlin
Pocket GPS Staff
Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59
Posts: 11878
Location: Massachusetts, USA

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Relying on TMC? Better be careful! Reply with quote

A group of italian hackers has demonstrated a way to send out fake TMC messages. What started off as an April Fools day joke has now been demonstrated to actually work, and with relatively little effort. Think about a disgruntled local establishing his or her own private radio station to tell motorists of a permanent accident around his/her house...

http://news.com.com/Dont+let+your+navigation+system+fool+you/2100-1002_3-6178106.html?tag=nefd.top
_________________
Lutz

Report Map Errors here:
TomTom/TeleAtlas NAVTEQ
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
classy56
Frequent Visitor


Joined: Sep 08, 2006
Posts: 441
Location: Dorset

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest going by posts on this forum, most people will be happy to recieve any message, hacked or not :D :D :D
_________________
Tomtom Go730T
App 8.300
Map v815.2003


To old to die young.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jonandmarkuk
Frequent Visitor


Joined: Aug 06, 2006
Posts: 832
Location: Derby

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting to read that something called TPEG should be replacing TMC sometime. Interesting to see how that will work and if existing hardware will be able to use the data.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jonandmarkuk
Frequent Visitor


Joined: Aug 06, 2006
Posts: 832
Location: Derby

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm been in development since 1997, so maybe still sometime before the existing system is replaced. Also seems to be DAB radio broadcasts which can be just as hard if not more difficult to get a strong signal on?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
swing
Pocket GPS Verifier
Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Nov 04, 2003
Posts: 2225
Location: Bedfordshire, UK

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, of course, a DAB based solution means all new hardware, and you would definitely need an external aerial DAB connection. I'd prefer the UK companies to concentrate on improving the current TMC solution Smile
_________________
Please don't be offended if I do not reply to a PM - please ask questions via the forums.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
mikealder
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005
Posts: 19638
Location: Blackpool , Lancs

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swing wrote:
Also, of course, a DAB based solution means all new hardware, and you would definitely need an external aerial DAB connection.
I wish the RDS-TMC recievers that are currently available had an external connection to feed them with a decent signal, they might start to work a little better - Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
jonandmarkuk
Frequent Visitor


Joined: Aug 06, 2006
Posts: 832
Location: Derby

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How difficult would it be for car makers / gps makers decide on a standard connection which the car would have and the GPS plugged into it and gave access to the aerial on top of the car, sorry but I'm not prepared to take my car apart or trail unsightly wires all over as a perminant solution. I don't like having to trail a wire over the screen as it is.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
scoopjeff
Occasional Visitor


Joined: May 12, 2006
Posts: 38
Location: Northumberland, next to chip shop

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

classy56 wrote:
To be honest going by posts on this forum, most people will be happy to recieve any message, hacked or not :D :D :D


Yes the only time I got any info on mine was when I was stuck in a jam itself. The first time it ever worked and I was already stuck!

Regards
Scoop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jonandmarkuk
Frequent Visitor


Joined: Aug 06, 2006
Posts: 832
Location: Derby

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got info of slow moving traffic on the M1 just as it was too late to get off at the junction Sad. A few seconds earlier and I may not have got stuck
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gee-Pee
Lifetime Member


Joined: Feb 10, 2005
Posts: 1951
Location: Mostly somewhere in Essex

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]I wish the RDS-TMC recievers that are currently available had an external connection to feed them with a decent signal, they might start to work a little better - Mike[/quote]

Mine has Wink
_________________
Gee-Pee
Lifetime member PGPSW - time rapidly decreasing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mikealder
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005
Posts: 19638
Location: Blackpool , Lancs

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do most of the RDS-TMC units I use, but I have had to modify them with a soldering iron to achieve this, the Navman product looks good though at least it is supplied with an aerial and the capability to connect an external feed via the socket - big plus point having the connection fitted to the device, looking forwards to seeing how well this T1 works in the NW of UK - Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
Gee-Pee
Lifetime Member


Joined: Feb 10, 2005
Posts: 1951
Location: Mostly somewhere in Essex

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikealder wrote:
So do most of the RDS-TMC units I use, but I have had to modify them with a soldering iron to achieve this, the Navman product looks good though at least it is supplied with an aerial and the capability to connect an external feed via the socket - big plus point having the connection fitted to the device, looking forwards to seeing how well this T1 works in the NW of UK - Mike


I have had no problem at all with mine. I bought a magmount aerial from Maplins and a Garmin BNC to MMC to make the connection. Wires everywhere at the moment, but I have no difficulty in getting a good signal...dead spots on occasion, as the coverage is patchy in the UK. Hoping for something better when I travel around europe, particularly Germany. Wink Pity there is no other transmitting station in the UK other than Classic FM. - Graham
_________________
Gee-Pee
Lifetime member PGPSW - time rapidly decreasing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
thezerocool
Occasional Visitor


Joined: Jul 23, 2005
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG YOU GUYS ARE USELESS!!!

TMC works a treat if you would just read the instructions and fit it in your car properly.

Im running TT 910 with the £69.99 RDS/TMC adaptor for my work EVERY day and for personal at the weekends and evenings and the TMC adaptor give me info ALL the time.

Remember that updates only appear every 15 mins and there may be nothing to report. Not every que will be on there if the traffic network doesnt know about it. And if you are getting NOTHING... they maybe use your brains and check why, a penny to a pound it coz you installed it all wrong!!!

I wont have my TT connected anymore without TMC as it works so well so the rest of the world (PocketGPS) must be doing something seriously wrong!!!

READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!

the ZC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mikealder
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005
Posts: 19638
Location: Blackpool , Lancs

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thezerocool wrote:
OMG YOU GUYS ARE USELESS!!!
I am not even going to answer that part!

Perhaps you could inform the forum exactly where you find it works so well in the UK, and what vehicle you are using it in? - I can assure you there are plenty of us that have jumped through hoops trying to get this to work and got nowhere. - Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
Fraserp
Lifetime Member


Joined: Jun 15, 2004
Posts: 297
Location: Manchester, UK

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thezerocool wrote:
Quote:
OMG YOU GUYS ARE USELESS!!!

Sound like a troll to me....

Moderators be my guest, kill this thread, at the very least lock it!

Re other comments:

OMG YOU GUYS ARE USELESS!!! Clearly we all are?

TMC works a treat..... wish it did, even TT acknowledge it's near useless.

maybe use your brains ... cannot do that i'm way to stupid.....

READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!!! ... You're not supposed to be able to read are you? That's clearly where i'm going wrong.

TTFN
_________________
Fraserp
TomTom 1000
GPSmap 60CSx
SatMap
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message







Posted: Today    Post subject: Pocket GPS Advertising

Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Pocket GPS World Forum Index -> News And Latest Information All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Make a Donation



CamerAlert Database

Click here for the PocketGPSWorld.com Speed Camera Database

Download Speed Camera Database
22.123 (18 Dec 24)



WORLDWIDE SPEED CAMERA SPOTTERS WANTED!

Click here to submit camera positions to the PocketGPSWorld.com Speed Camera Database


12mth Subscriber memberships awarded every week for verified new camera reports!

Submit Speed Camera Locations Now


CamerAlert Apps



iOS QR Code






Android QR Code







© Terms & Privacy


GPS Shopping