REDUCTION IN SPEED CAMERA DATABASE THIS MONTH

hijacker · Regular Visitor Joined: Dec 20, 2003 Posts: 188

now there's a thing, Red Light Cameras.

What's the point of having those in the database?

Being caught by a mobile trap, fair enough.
Being caught by a GATSO, might have been hidden so, ok.
Being caught by a SPECS, careless. You had long enough to adjust your speed.
Being caught by a Traffic Light camera, what a dumb ass! You deserve all you get!!
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Sema_4 · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject:

Classy, it seems to me your taking all this rather personally... The only reason I responded to you in the first place is because you said that you could not understand someone elses point of view. As a result of my clarification, you proceeded to say I must be blind and incapable of driving without the database, like Im some kind of retarded speed freak.

You continually launch personal insults at me and question my motives for using this database like Im some sort of scum criminal that is only out to break the law and tear up your streets without getting caught, when in fact, the point of this thread is to discuss the merits of the database, if you continue to force me to respond by personally attacking me, then I shall.

The bone of contention here seems to be that you say we have no right to request this extra catagory, a catagory that as it happens, you don't want to see added either.

The fact that you argue against this feature, a feature that you could easily turn off if it was added, is that you don't think others should be permitted to have it just because you don't want it. OH, wait... forgive me, but is that an incorrect assumption ? Do you really think that those of us that are asking for this, SHOULD be allowed to have it if we want, despite the fact that you personally won't be using it ? Judging by your arguments this far, somehow I think the former rather than the latter, correct me if Im wrong.

Agreed, at no time have you said 'your not allowed to have it', but on the other hand you have said that you don't want it, and also that we have no right to ask for it. The very fact your arguing against adding this, is nothing more than attempt to stop others from having it, you can easily turn off any part of the database you choose, but instead you argue that we have no right to ask for it.

And the basis of this arguement ? You continually say that we must be incabable of driving with the speed limit and all we want to do is break the law, the fact is how I drive is my concern, and I really wouldn't enter in to that area of my driving ability (or lack there of according to you) after all, you know nothing about me.

Have I critisized you driving ? NO, have I critisized your visual awareness ? NO, have I questioned your ability to stay within the law ? NO, have I expressed concern at the way you choose to use the database or whether or not your an upstanding member of your comunity ? NO, in fact, all I have done is ask why you want to argue that we have no right to ask for this feature, what difference does it make to you if it's included or not ? Your not obliged to use it ! Will it really make the database useless to you if you have to disable one catagory ? is it really that abhorrent?

Contrary to what you say, I don't think everyone that uses this database is a boy racer or that they have a problem seeing speed limit signs (as you seem to think it's natural to assume), some people consider it safer to keep up with the flow of traffic, rather than potter along as a rolling road block at 30mph and risk some moron who gets impatient and tries to over take, from causing an accident. I have attended many such accidents in my career, and they are seldom pretty. There are some pretty impatient people on the roads, and I for one don't fancy getting involved in a wreck because one of them tried to over take me when it wasn't safe to do so.

The mobile camera's that come and go on motorway bridges are not there to monitor accident blackspots, they are just there to look for out of date tax discs and issue speeding tickets, there is a mobile camera sitting on a motorway bridge not to far from here, on a stretch of the M74 that has never had a fatal accident on it in my life time, and thats quite a number of years... hardly an accident black spot then...

Finally, you didn't bring racism in to the conversation any more than you brought terrorism in to the conversation, yeah, if you say so buddy, if the shoe fits...

The 4 or 5 people that are continually arguing against this option, are only doing so to prevent those that are asking for it, from getting it. As it has been said many times, if its there, and you don't want to use it, then don't use it. If you really believe adding it, will make the database worse, even though you can turn it off, make your point without suggesting others only want to use it to break the law.

Didn't you infact say at one point 'if you want to have false alerts every 10 miles, so be it' ? If thats the case, why critisize us and suggest we are all law brakers for asking for it ?

I don't care that there is a red light warning, even though I don't agree with it, Im not arguing that it should be removed or that those that want it, have no right to ask for it. I find the whole idea of warning you when you can 'jump a light' and when you can't, to be laughable, never mind the 3 points you might get from an unverified mobile camera, Im talking fatal accident enquiery stuff, that happens all to often when people jump lights, but the database actively encourages that !!!! LAUGHABLE !

If you had stayed on topic from the start, and said why you didn't want the new catagory, without resorting to calling me a blind speed freak, none of this would have happened, you opened this door, not me, I have never insulted your abilities, but you have repeatedly suggest mine are questionable.

Andy_P · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:44 am Post subject:

Very, very bored now....

Border_Collie · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:48 am Post subject:

bmuskett · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:43 am Post subject:

And STILL no comment from anyone in the Pocket GPS Team, which is what is really bugging me.

OK, let me ask a different question. In his original post in this thread, MaFt said "can I request that people submit mobile cameras whenever you see them even if they are already in the database" and "The idea is that in 6 months time we may be able to reduce the number of mobile locations if they haven't been used for a considerable amount of time."

But then in the very next update a week later 1000 mobile locations were removed, with no mention or explanation of the change being given. Resulting in the post which started this thread. So what happened? Why the sudden change in that week? Can't we at least have an explanation from someone in the Pocket GPS Team of what they're doing? Because it definitely changed from one week to the next.

lola · Lifetime Member Joined: Aug 31, 2006 Posts: 146

Skippy · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:21 am Post subject:

alan_dr · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:51 am Post subject:

Sema_4 · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:19 am Post subject:

alan_dr ? now Im confused... the quote you posted, was not said by me, they are someone elses words and opinions... and Im uncertain if your post should perhaps be addressed to the person who did write those words instead of me ? Sorry if Im being dumb and missing something, I share the same opinion as you regarding that quote and Im just not making sense of your post on the basis that I wholeheartedly share your sentiments...

bmuskett · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:28 am Post subject:

bmuskett · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:35 am Post subject:

MaFt · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject:

MaFt · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:

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