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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: Monitron with a difference (M55) |
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Two of these have recently been installed on the M55 (Preston to Blackpool motorway) there is one in each direction approx half a mile prior to the Kirkham exit slip roads.
What is unusual is the electrical power is from a standby generator set and on the roof is a satellite dish, I can only assume this is for data transmission of pictures - or does anyone else know why the camera might need this? - it doesn't appear to be for satellite TV! - the LNB is the wrong type for a start, couldn't legally get any closer to take the photo though. - Mike
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Monitron with a difference (M55) |
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I thought these cameras used strips in the road - a lot of trouble to go to for a temp installation, surely? Very odd.
mikealder wrote: | What is unusual is the electrical power is from a standby generator set and on the roof is a satellite dish |
How long before some very naughty person goes and kicks the dish over? ![Twisted Evil](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) _________________ Gone fishing! |
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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There are white stripes on both open lanes of the motorway similar to the Gatso markings employed elsewhere.
The East bound dish is still there, the West bound dish appears to have "gone missing" since yesterday! Unless they have removed it for a reason - Mike |
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'll be driving past here tomorrow so will keep my eye open for these, thanks mike.
Also I note they have closed off the Hard Shoulder. If this is purely to stop people pulling in near the camera then I think this is compeltely outrageous.
What if you suddenly break down or get a flat tyre, and need to pull in?
Of course if they are doing roadworks here then that's different but if the shoulder is coned off for camera only reasons then surely this should not be allowed?
Last January I had to pull into the very same stretch of hard shoulder when my engine decided it wanted to seize up.. |
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Skippy, have you 'gone West'? _________________ Tim |
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Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15154 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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thing is... do we stick it in the database as a temporary or a mobile... i presume you've submitted it mike?
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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It looks more like what I would expect from a temporary camera than a mobile camera, but as long as it goes into the database, I'm not going to complain about the classification ![Smile](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Only just submitted them as I wanted to verify the positions prior to sending them, which involved a quick run to Preston and back. They both have satellite dishes attached today.
I would agree that this is a temp camera, the roadworks are till March next year, the problem I have with Temp cameras is the lack of Speed related warning, unless you carve up the temp camera file download yourself - Mike |
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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The cones are probably there to show there is a hazard not to stop people in need from stopping. The position of the barrier is related to ADS Advance Direction Sign to stop it being hit in an emergency. This is a standard distance in front of the ADS with a standard flare to the ground. The position of the generator cabin compromises this so the cones will prob stay on to show the hazard a bit like they do when any contractor is leaving holes or equipment on the verge during repair.
What I don't understand is why the generator container is not placed after the sign, but within the length of barrier, with a small cable to just in front where the camera could be sat in relative safety. This would have obscured less of the sign and increased all our safety.
I suppose this is one of the down sides to them having to be visible as the safest place to be is for them to be after bridge abutments, road signs, telephone poles etc as this does not increase the hazard. Most councils are now trying to decrease the street furniture and reduce hazards. _________________ Nokia 5800 XM
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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mikealder wrote: | the problem I have with Temp cameras is the lack of Speed related warning | The PGPSW Garmin format zoned speed camera file contains speed information for temp cameras ![Smile](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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I know the information is there, it just takes longer to update the unit, splitting the file and assigning warnings etc. Where files are no longer in use you have to remember to delete the categories from the the device - Mike |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Monitron with a difference (M55) |
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mikealder wrote: | What is unusual is the electrical power is from a standby generator set and on the roof is a satellite dish, I can only assume this is for data transmission of pictures - or does anyone else know why the camera might need this? - |
You are correcty Mike. The dish is for satellite internet. Round here all this type of cam and the red-light version are connected up via ADSL. These cameras aren't near a phone line to get ADSL to upload the piccies.
Last summer there were temp cams on the M5 - I think in Devon - Once the truckers found out what the dishes were for they were often clipped by wing mirrors!
Not sure what the capacity of the hard drives are in these things but they were doing good business. Presumably if they cannot call home once they are full they wil continue to flash but not have any evidence saved.
Also these had a big emergency stop button on the generators but no one took advantage of that facility!
PS It is not unusual for the generators to power the temp m'way cameras |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: |
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mikealder wrote: | They both have satellite dishes attached today. |
Looks like we will have to sent "The Boys" around again... ![Twisted Evil](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) _________________ Gone fishing! |
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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mikealder wrote: | I know the information is there, it just takes longer to update the unit | You should go back to your Nuvi then - simple uploading the file with POI Loader and you'll get speed specific warnings, without further work. |
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