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TomTom RDS-TMC Traffic Receiver Available In Europe
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B0dger67
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At last...

Blood from a stone....

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Dear Mr Keir,

Thank you for contacting TomTom Customer Support.

We now have a software update for the GO510 available.

Please make sure to login to TomTom Home and update your software to version 6.520

With best regards,

The TomTom Customer Support Team


Don't forget to back up the image that works, guys...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly, it seems to have been Halloween type fake blood Evil or Very Mad

The release notes for 6.52 make no reference whatsoever to any changes relating to the TMC receiver.

It is behaving differently, though. It only seems to look at the higher end of the frequency range, i.e., above 100MHz, which suggests that some thought has been given to the plight of UK users. It also seems to happily retune if you switch from UK to Any Country and back again which it definitely didn't do before.

So lets assume there's an undocumented tweek or two in there which may help some people. Mine, however, was sitting on my office windowsill happily locked to BBC Berkshire until....

I HUNG THE ARIEL OUT OF THE WINDOW!!!

Zap! Classic FM! Pow! Traffic data!

Was it the K-glass in my windows causing me the pain all along? Could it be that the Honda Accord does in fact have heat reflecting glass which doesn't interfere with the GPS signal from billions of miles away but challenges FM radio waves just a bit too much?

I'll update tomorrow, just in case anyone's interested....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any one else found a difference ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its no different in practice.

I give in and will be returning the receiver while I still can.

Shame, that.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B0dger67 wrote:
Its no different in practice.

I give in and will be returning the receiver while I still can.

Shame, that.


As I said before - the main problem with RDS-TMC is that the signal itself is weaker than the signal of the main FM channel, therefore it requires a better antenna to reliably receive the RDS-TMC sub-carrier. TT Receiver is using the cable from the GO to the receiver itself as an antenna which is not very good. If you were able to connect it to the external antenna instead, you would see a lot of improvement.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm right in saying that so far all the TT TMC receivers which are in use in this country have been bought from an online supplier or suppliers and as yet TT haven't yet officially released it for the UK.

As Garmin have found with their TMC receivers the strength of transmission signal in the UK can be less than on the continent so could it be the case that Tom Tom might be able to 'tweak' the receiver especially for the UK before it goes on sale ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also wonder if there will be a mod to the official UK release
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allen_EP wrote:
I also wonder if there will be a mod to the official UK release

a longer antenna perhaps? :-) you must be joking. The only thing they can do and are probably doing it right now is improving the receiver, so hopefully Mk2 will have a better sensitivity.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as i wanted one of these this is the first time i have backed off from a new product from TomTom, jeez am i glad i did.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GO-GO-910 wrote:
As much as i wanted one of these this is the first time i have backed off from a new product from TomTom, jeez am i glad i did.


Snap same here.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is still ******* useless as I said before it would be better to allow the user to tune it manually rather than have it in permanent seek mode
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have decided to use Traffic via GPRS.

It has to be a better option than messing around with what is clearly an underdeveloped bit of kit ...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether the UK specific TomTom TMC receiver is or isn't exactly the same as that currently being sold by some online retailers I fail to see how Tom Tom can be held responsible for the performance of something they haven't officially released or sanctioned for use in this country?

So, does this mean that all those who have bought something that hasn't
been officially released in the UK and are now complaining it doesn't work properly don't really have a much of a case with TomTom ?

The only people they should be aiming their wrath at are the retailers, assuming they have advertised the TT TMC receiver as being suitable for use in this country.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RDS wrote:
Whether the UK specific TomTom TMC receiver is or isn't exactly the same as that currently being sold by some online retailers I fail to see how Tom Tom can be held responsible for the performance of something they haven't officially released or sanctioned for use in this country?
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The only people they should be aiming their wrath at are the retailers, assuming they have advertised the TT TMC receiver as being suitable for use in this country.


Do you expect your British car to fall apart immediately after you cross the border to the Continent? A receiver either works or it doesn't. This one doesn't.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eldar wrote:
RDS wrote:
Whether the UK specific TomTom TMC receiver is or isn't exactly the same as that currently being sold by some online retailers I fail to see how Tom Tom can be held responsible for the performance of something they haven't officially released or sanctioned for use in this country?
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The only people they should be aiming their wrath at are the retailers, assuming they have advertised the TT TMC receiver as being suitable for use in this country.


Do you expect your British car to fall apart immediately after you cross the border to the Continent? A receiver either works or it doesn't. This one doesn't.


Well, if you are going to use an analogy like that, then you can apply that to buying a DVD that is made specifically for the U.S (NTSC) that wont work on my UK PAL DVD Player.

But anyhoo, it doesnt seem to work that well, so stick to GPRS if you want it to work.
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