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markbatey Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jan 05, 2005 Posts: 7 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: I had to use a paper map... |
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Hi,
For the first time, tomtom let me down the other day - and to my shame I had to get the map out. This is what happened: Driving down the A1 in North Yorkshire with Dover set as a destination, I heard on the radio that the road was blocked a few miles south of Catterick. I pulled off at Scotch Corner, and tried to get an alternative route that would get me back on the A1 at Leeming Bar about ten miles further south.
I couldn't find anything in the software that would let me do it. I tried "avoid roadblock" but the furthest off you can programme that on my V5.0 is I think three miles away. I tried "avoid part of route", but my route was on the A1 for the next hundred miles, and I only wanted to avoid the next ten!
This is just what I got the gps for, and I couldn't make it help me out. Am I missing something here? Really don't want to get that old paper map out again if I can help it! |
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julianbarker Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 431
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Leave motorway and plot a route to the junction on the A1 you want to rejoin at. Then tell it to avoid A1. It will then plot you to the A1 at the Junction not using the A1. Then you can plot to Dover just as you reapproach the A1 at that junction. Works for me. |
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eillo7 Regular Visitor
Joined: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 199
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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That's alot of fuss and bother inputting another route and having to tell it which junction you want to go to.
I agree with markbatey - why is there not an easier option? Or is there...? |
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59 Posts: 11878 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there is. Use Mapopolis and enter the avoid/route through directly on the screen... _________________ Lutz
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julianbarker Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 431
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:12 am Post subject: |
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eillo7 wrote: | That's alot of fuss and bother inputting another route and having to tell it which junction you want to go to.
I agree with markbatey - why is there not an easier option? Or is there...? |
If you read the original post, that is exactly what the poster wanted to do. He wanted to get back on the road at an exact point using TT, and I have demonstrated how to do that. As I see it, if you use TT you have three options -
1) Sit in traffic
2) Rely on TT rerouting which isn't guaranteed to get you back on the road at the point you want, or
3) Do as I suggest which take a few seconds but doesn't require TT to be psychic!
TT is a tool. It does what you ask. It can't do what you don't tell it, and it can't guess how much of the A1 you don't want to use without listing ever section of the route. If it did that no doubt people would complain about what a fag it was scrolling through junctions when they have no idea what the one they want is called! As I have demonstrated, if you know where you want to be, just tell TT to go there. TT even makes it as simple as pointing to a spot o na map. It is what TT is designed to do! |
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eillo7 Regular Visitor
Joined: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 199
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Julian, I did read the original post thank you...I'd be a bit of a chump posting replies without doing so, wouldn't I?
The OP was remarking that the maximum roadblock avoidance is 3 miles, and avoiding part of route, as the obvious easy alternative, is sometimes impractical.
Your solution is indeed elegant and serves the need - but the point I was making is that it would be good if there were a way that involved less input. For example, an option to avoid roadblock for X miles, or a longer default option than 3 miles.
This could even be achieved 'on the move' with some care, without requiring a stop to re-route.
I'm sorry if I offended with my choice of words (which were aimed more at the limitations of the software). I was not intending to belittle your reply which was entirely correct.
...and thank you for pointing out that you can route by selecting a point on the map - that was quite useful as I had forgotten that option exists. |
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alix776 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: 03/05/2003 14:45:49 Posts: 3999 Location: leyland lancs ENGLAND
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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a waypoint slected off the map would have done what the OP wanted _________________ currently using aponia truck navigation on windows phone. Good bye IOS don't let the door hit you on the way out .
Oh the joys of being a courier.
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julianbarker Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 431
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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No offense taken! :D
I agree that it would be wonderful if TT did losts more than it does. However, most things people want to do it will do wit ht a small amount of work. |
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neil01 Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 902 Location: Leeds
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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I would always recommend keeping an up-to-date map with you just in case. Yes there are ways around most routing problems - but sometimes it is easier to have a look at a map which shows a far greater area around a blockage than any PDA could ever hope to (at a reasonable scale).
Additionally, there are problems other than blockages to take into account - the technical ones which render your satnav useless.
Another advantage of an atlas is that it is usually more up-to-date than any electronic maps, especially with new roads which are often displayed 'dotted in' with an expected opening date - something you never get with the electronic ones, which for technical reasons can't include any road until it is actually open. |
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astrocompass Lifetime Member
Joined: Aug 15, 2005 Posts: 156 Location: Windsor, UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | especially with new roads which are often displayed 'dotted in' with an expected opening date - something you never get with the electronic ones, which for technical reasons can't include any road until it is actually open.
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Hmmm. Not so in my experience. The delightful Jane tried to route me down the Royston bypass, which was clearly not only not open, but also nowhere near finished. I guess I may have gotten away with it had I been driving a JCB. Not sure what the technical reasons are to which you refer, but it just ain't so.
Nonetheless, would totally endorse your comments about taking a recent paper map, if only to leave it on the front passenger seat so the lowlifes think you ain't got satnav..... _________________ Garmin 2360LT
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neil01 Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 902 Location: Leeds
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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The technical reasons are that until a road is actually open you can't (shouldn't) route anyone down it, and as expectecd dates are not always the actual date, they can't be programmed in.
I am very suprised to find that you were directed down a new unfinished road as they maps just don't include unfinished roads (errors excepted of course) - could the new road be over a previous road (ie closed and then widened for the bypass) or perhaps the instruction refered to the road layout before the new road appeared. |
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10643 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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neil01 wrote: | could the new road be over a previous road (ie closed and then widened for the bypass) or perhaps the instruction refered to the road layout before the new road appeared. | The Baldock By-Pass was a completely new road, cut through virgin soil.8O _________________ Richard
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neil01 Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 902 Location: Leeds
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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In that case, it looks if the map data supplied was in error, since if I understand correctly, it is not supposed to contain any unfinished sections of road (or is this just a result of the way the map data is compiled so that the navigation software can use it?). |
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