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mikealder
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 Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:31 am Post subject: Re: Wow! And a Merry Christmas to you! |
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| Aelfwine wrote: | | Some fixed camera's were not there anymore but there is no way of telling you changes to the database??? |
You can inform of removed cameras using the POICapture utility, select the capture as normal, then on the camera type page select next (RH Arrow) on the next page is a selection for remove camera, this will be stored in the same way as the others that are captured, I hope you enjoyed the trip, its a long drive but well worth the effort - Mike |
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james_uk9
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| Ako wrote: | Simon1 wrote:
| Quote: | | I notice that you've been a member for over a year - why did you not contribute as well? (Unless of course you did not come across any new cameras). |
I have only started using the database in ernest recently and all the cameras I know of in my area are already in the database so what would be the point of me submitting them again? As I have said in previous posts, the fee should have been for membership and not for the database. Quite a number of other people also said this. This would have negated all the bed feeling in the first place. If you were working next to someone doing the same job for less money you would understandably be less than pleased whether you knew about it before or not.
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IIRC from the offset of the POI capture prog from Lutz, PGPSW were asking for ALL cameras in existence so how does the "I've not come across any new camera's" comment carry weight as an excuse for not submitting?
There will always be those who can be bothered to contribute and those that can't/wont be bothered. In this case those that did will be rewarded, and rightly so IMO.
Move on already, this is old news!
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Ako
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: |
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james_uk9 wrote:
| Quote: | | IIRC from the offset of the POI capture prog from Lutz, PGPSW were asking for ALL cameras in existence so how does the "I've not come across any new camera's" comment carry weight as an excuse for not submitting? |
I guess everyone uses Tom Tom then.
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james_uk9
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| Ako wrote: | james_uk9 wrote:
| Quote: | | IIRC from the offset of the POI capture prog from Lutz, PGPSW were asking for ALL cameras in existence so how does the "I've not come across any new camera's" comment carry weight as an excuse for not submitting? |
I guess everyone uses Tom Tom then. |
Well, the smart people do :P
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Simon1
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Ooooh - them's fightin' words!  |
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Andy_P
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Location: West and Southwest London
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:48 am Post subject: Re: Smugness and/or greed? |
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| dx7 wrote: |
It shows how easily "bought" some people are, doesn't it?
Principle doesn't matter, or right.
A typical nimby-type response from those who no longer have to pay.
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What gives you that (somewhat offensive) impression?
As far as I can tell from the posts since u-turn was announced, the vast majority of those who have contributed in the past are STILL strongly against the charge in principle, and have said so. What more can we do? (apart from jump ship and start again, as some are doing). |
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davejh
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| Just as an after thought. What will stop anyone who wants the database for free using POIEDIT to download the safety camera database. |
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dx7
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Smugness and/or greed? |
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| Andy_P2002 wrote: | | dx7 wrote: |
It shows how easily "bought" some people are, doesn't it?
Principle doesn't matter, or right.
A typical nimby-type response from those who no longer have to pay.
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What gives you that (somewhat offensive) impression?
As far as I can tell from the posts since u-turn was announced, the vast majority of those who have contributed in the past are STILL strongly against the charge in principle, and have said so. What more can we do? (apart from jump ship and start again, as some are doing). |
Agreed, but note I made it clear "some people".
Clearly not aimed at those who ARE unhappy despite the contrived bribe of free membership.
It is a pity that more people do not share your sense of principle in this matter. |
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MarkHewitt
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| By no means have I read all of the above, But I believe the new model is very fair. Especially the lifetime sub for previous contributors :P |
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vaioable
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: Changes Log |
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I read the previous pages and to be honest it went round and round and round. and then turned left at the next availabe exit.
I will pay on one condition.
There will have to be available before the download a Changes log of all the cameras that have changed and been added.
I have no possible way of knowing if the database i am getting is any different to the one the previous month. Other than file size and that coul dbe bloat really.
I still dont agree with the decision that PGPSW has taken and i personally agree that they have not listened and just done what they wanted to do anyway and charged for it.
On a side note. how will they also stop the Database being seeded on a P2P?
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sirusman
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Quite simply they can not stop it being on P2P |
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Tim Buxton
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Possibly not, but do you really know what you're getting from a P2P site?
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sirusman
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you realy know what you will be getting from PGPS now it as gone professional or is that commercial |
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Tim Buxton
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Touché.
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vaioable
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ok the P2P was an aside.
Like i stated i would/will pay for it.
i grew out of P2P sometime ago. 
However can someone answer the question of will there be a changes log?
Thanks
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