Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional

xsx10r · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 20, 2005 Posts: 1

I have used the site and the database for several months now. I read this thread up to about page 9 yesterday. apologies if I am repeating anything already said.

I can appreciate the alienation felt by several contributors, but do feel the guys running this site and the database are doing the right thing. To an extent the data base is shared equity. It is good because of the contributions. Other paid for databases eg road angel get contributions from their subscribers. They don't bitch about it but must realise we are all familiar with our local area but occaisionally travel elsewhere. I view contributing as a form of hospitality to anyone who comes to my neck(s) of the woods, and will continue to contribute charge or not.

This is the important idea in this reply. There will be a number of major contributors to the database who are now Censored

off. Why not issue them shares in it? If it goes on to make a profit, pay them a dividend. This will give an incentive to continue support. If other people contribute regularly, give them a subscription discount at a certain level of contribution. I know its not perfect and will upset some people, but at least its an idea to take this forward in a positive manner.

The guys running the site realise doing nothing is not an option. Change and the managemnt of change is always difficult. Consulting with all members of virtual community is not possible, many do not subscribe. Give them a break and lets go forward.

JonnyW · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 16, 2005 Posts: 39

tomtomgo · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject:

johnny i agree with that but i was thinking of the overall site. As said as far as this one goes they have it wrong big time.

ringostarr · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Posts: 19

Should the database be ........
Votes
FREE 88 % 141
Chargable 4 % 7
I don't care - I'll support it either way 8 % 13

Would you be willing in principle to pay for the saftey camera database from PGPSW?
Votes
YES : If Charging was introduced I WOULD continue to collect and submit data 6 % 6
YES : If Charging was introduced I MAY continue to collect and submit data 4 % 4
YES : If Charging was introduced I WOULD NOT continue to collect and submit data 6 % 6
NO : I would STOP using the database and get information elsewhere 35 % 34
NO : I would use the last version available and live with it as is 48 % 47
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ringostarr · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Posts: 19

stuw · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject:

I have just spent the last 40mins reading through this topic.

I joined this site when i first bought a PDA with TomTom3, and was given free advice by a number of users on how to set up the device. I do not contribute but I do read the Forums.

I have the Speed Camera database loaded and my view is that as a free database it is good, but does have lots of mistakes.

The issue to me is that the data has been provided free for the use of all, and it is an insult to all of those that contribute to then ask them to pay to use there information freely given.

I live in the North East of England and I read the police web sites for changes to camera location in my area where most of my driving is done. The changes a extremenly rare, so I would not be downloading each month as £2 is not worth it for the majority of my travelling is local. I would only download if I was travelling any distance from my home, not a regular occurance.

As I said I read the forums and have been impressed by the willingness of people to help, and I must admit I am disturbed by the biterness (justified in my view) this has created. I think a backtrack is required and the cost issue sent to the rubbish bin.

SouthHams · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject:

Surely the problem here is that no one likes to asked to pay for something that they feel they own,

What PGPSW must do is add some value of their own to the database, It should be made easier to use;

1 It should have auto-update capabilities for PC or handheld

2 The data should be accurate and up to date. Why not advertise for area contributors to check the data? I noted that one correspondent informed PGPSW of new cameras but they weren't added because they checked against a very old Police database.

3 Get rid of all of the silly headers that make the cameras difficult to read on the TomTom Go

4 Provide integrated voice indications of cameras

I'm sure other more experienced users could add to the list.

If you do decide to charge offer an annual and lifetime subscription it does wonders for the cash flow
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SouthHams · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:20 pm Post subject:

Oh.................. and of course

DON'T CHARGE UNTIL YOU HAVE ADDED THE VALUE
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metroace · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject:

icsys · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject:

Having read this entire thread I have a few comments...

tomtomgo · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject:

Just a thought, Now that PGPSW are planning to charge for something that TOMTOM also charge for, does it give TOMTOM more leverage to lock there units or invalidate the warranty of any unit with Third Party apps.
Personally i can't believe TomTom havent tried this route already, or now that they have a firm foothold is this the new year whammy.

JonnyW · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 16, 2005 Posts: 39

SouthHams · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject:

enanjay · Occasional Visitor Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 42

Border collie wrote

[All I can think of, after reading EVERY response, is maybe go down similar lines to FriendsReunited]

Have F. R. not just sold out to ITV? and wasn't Ebay just a good idea dreamed up by a few people who thought it would nice to sell things cheaply on the net? look how much money they make nowadays out of other peoples property!

my view is that I read the forums I am interested in nearly every day and I download every new d/base but not because it is a necessity. i would not want to pay £20 upfront for something I may not want but I might be tempted to pay £5 - 10 a year to read the forums 365 times with free access to the d/base if I need it. that way you get the money to run the site off every member.[/quote]

metroace · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject:

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