Tom Tom Rider & Autocom

Footy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 11, 2005 Posts: 2

Hi there
I'm new to all this and want to fit a gps system to my Honda Pan European. I found your website, and I'm even more confused!
I'm comparing Tom Tom Rider and the Quest 2 systems,drawn to the screen size of the Rider but not sure about this bluetooth thing.
My bike has Autocom pro 7 fitted and the Quest 2 I believe can be routed through so no prbs hearing voice commands.
Do I have to shove a blue tooth earpiece into my already snug helmet or can you connect the Rider through the Autocom? I have been using a borrowed TomTom 300 and found it very easy to use in the car. How does the Quest 2 compare? Sorry to be so long winded.
Regards Steve

MikeOnABike · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 07, 2005 Posts: 32

Hi Steve.

Your autocom should take input from either of those GPS systems. I'm not aware of a bluetooth solution from autocom to your earpiece so you'd have to use wires but hopefully someone can correct me.

I read Ride or Bike magazine recently and I believe one of the writers was complaining that his tomtom/autocom does not route voice prompts for some reason. So try before you buy.

tomthompson · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:

I beleive reading somewhere else that Autocom are checking out the Rider to see how connections can be done . I had waited all summer for the Rider but when they decided that it would only come with UK maps and Europe would be extra I have opted for a Garmin it will also be easier to connect to my Autocom system on my FJR . I have gone for the 2720 as it has a touch screen its pricey but am through work buying from aspidcom in Portugal VAT free makes it viable for me and the 2720 can use the speed camera database from here

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Footy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 11, 2005 Posts: 2

Thanks guys for your input,
I to have thought about having to spend another £89.00 for the europe maping for the Ride, on top of the £545.00 (best price so far) the Rider cost's.
I know that Autocom do all the leads ect for the Garmin so I shall continue to ponder. I would love to try before buying but not sure who would offer that service.
Thanks Steve

Jelster · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:34 am Post subject:

FWIW, a mate of mine has a Quest on his 'Busa and it works very well through his Autocom. I would have gone that route myself but the original Quest doesn't have an audio warning for the speed cameras. The Quest II does, and so is a much better proposition.

Personally, I think the TT "Rider" is a bit pricey for what it is, especially with that "driven" mode thing (or whatever it's called).

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tomthompson · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:53 pm Post subject:

Well my latest toy has just arrived a garmin 2720. I chose this over the quest cos its got touch screen, speed camera alerts and even text to speech which I am hoping will mean that it shouts in my ear that there is a burger king just up the road
So tonight will be" oh why did they do that and oh god thats good" and various other expletives while i get used to another style of interface

I will let you know how I get on

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Skippy · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject:

Keba · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 05, 2005 Posts: 15

I'm still waiting on Autocom to finish coming up with a solution to the Autocom <-> Rider interface - was hoping to hear back from this week (been on holiday), but no emails, so I'll post when I hear something next week from them.
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tomthompson · Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:52 pm Post subject:

I have had a chance to use the Garmin 2720 albeit in the car so far(until I get the mount sorted for the bike) The difference to tomtom is amazing ,some of it good some not so good. The 2720 has a startup screen and then a screen where you have to agree every time it starts that you wont use it in a way to compromise your driving,the only problem with this is by the time the agree button comes up your already on the move.
On the up side the voice prompts far surpass tomtom to be told "at the roundabout take 2nd exit to Tebourba Way" is so much better.
The map display will take a bit of getting used to but the zoom as you come up to the next turn is so smooth at first you dont realise its happening.
So far I am more than pleased with the change and the 2720 has a robust feel about it that will be ideal on the bike .Unfortunately the bike mount is a xmas present so I will have to wait to try it on the bike but that will give me time to try out the PocketGPS speed camera database on it with the proximity alarms which is one of my main criteria for navigation ,mainly because my mileage on bike and car totals about 30000 miles a year.
More to follow :-
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Keba · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 05, 2005 Posts: 15

Well, got a message back from Autocom.

My previous experience of them being very helpful is going downhill at a large rate of knots - I asked a simple question (is the Rider compatible with the Nokia Car Kit) and got a non-answer.

I did however get told that the 'solution' to getting the Rider hooked up to a Autocom will happen, but that the part won't be available for retail till sometime in February 8O

I'm beginning to think that I should just buy an Autocom, get it installed and then mangle my own cable out of the earpiece cable that comes with the Rider in the first place, and just put up with the battery life of the bluetooth dongle.

Rolling Eyes

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tomthompson · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:23 pm Post subject:

One of the ideas I had when I was looking at buying the Rider was that I would put the bluetooth headset unit next to the autocom and put a cable from the bluetooth to the autocom and then still use the standard autocom headset . I wasnt able to try it out and decided instead to go for the garmin 2720 which connects easily to my autocom .
Might be worth a try

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Bruggen · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject:

Well, Autocom finally came up with a solution for RIDER connection, but here's the stitch up. You gotta buy a new system complete because it connects via a 4 pole 3.5 mm jack as used on the new system only. The old system uses 3 pole. This in spite of my many calls to Autocom who promisd me a solution in the knowledge that I didn't have the new system because it's only just been released. Autocom have lost my future business I'm afraid as I'm very disappointed with their attitude.

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