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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject: Rep of Ireland Reply with quote

Is souther ireland included on the tom tom go 300 or is it classed as international?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. It is only mapped on the MRE in the Plus maps that come with the 500, and there's very little detail on that.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at the Garmin range. Coverage of the Republic of Ireland is included in the UK map area and they use Navteq maps which are said to have better Ireland coverage than TomTom's TeleAtlas ones.

The Ireland maps aren't great though. There are major cities and N and R roads mapped but the rest is missing. Many towns are not fully mapped.

eg: Enniskillen, Omagh and Cookstown, Carlow, Athlone, Killarney and Kilkenny only show main roads.

Dublin, Belfast, Waterford, Cork, Galway, Cork and Limerick are all fully mapped.

Garmin have an online map browser on their website where you can have a look at the City Select Europe v7 maps to check out the level of detail in your area. You have to zoom in quite a bit before the minor roads appear.

http://www.garmin.com/cartography/ontheRoad/

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Destinator systems give you this sort of coverage as well.

Skippy wrote:
Have a look at the Garmin range. Coverage of the Republic of Ireland is included in the UK map area and they use Navteq maps which are said to have better Ireland coverage than TomTom's TeleAtlas ones.

The Ireland maps aren't great though. There are major cities and N and R roads mapped but the rest is missing. Many towns are not fully mapped.

eg: Enniskillen, Omagh and Cookstown, Carlow, Athlone, Killarney and Kilkenny only show main roads.

Dublin, Belfast, Waterford, Cork, Galway, Cork and Limerick are all fully mapped.

Garmin have an online map browser on their website where you can have a look at the City Select Europe v7 maps to check out the level of detail in your area. You have to zoom in quite a bit before the minor roads appear.

http://www.garmin.com/cartography/ontheRoad/

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Navman also give similar coverage of Ireland and Northern Ireland.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking about it, some of the TomTom systems are changing from TeleAtlas to Navteq maps too, aren't they?

I guess the bottom line is to find a friendly dealer and check out the map detail before you buy. Ireland coverage is improving all the time but not all vendors use the latest maps (depending on the release cycle of their product)...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really i like the look of TOMTOM but i have family and friends in Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic. I really can't believe Irelans's isn't better mapped - any reason for this.
Thanks for the replys - Mark.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

taxi_mark wrote:
I really can't believe Irelans's isn't better mapped - any reason for this.


Ireland was never mapped as comprehensively as the UK and many other countries were. Take a look at the state of some of the roads in Ireland. Many of the minor roads don't even have proper signs. Confused Things are improving extremely fast though, much of it with EU funding.

Dave Burrows wrote an excellent article about Navteq wich explains a lot about Ireland coverage. http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/navteq2.php
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an Ulsterman born and bred I rather resent your view of Irish roads. In the north at least they are no worse and often better than in England, anyway, who do you think built the roads in England??
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anyway, who do you think built the roads in England??
shughie

Therein lies the problem. You can't be in 2 places at the same time. :D
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shughie wrote:
As an Ulsterman born and bred I rather resent your view of Irish roads. In the north at least they are no worse and often better than in England


Sorry if I caused offence, none was intended - I have close connections with Ireland and I travel there a lot. Hey, I'm from New Zealand, you should see the state of some of the roads there!

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anyway, who do you think built the roads in England??


The Romans? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy.
I have seen the roads in NZ, was there in the 60s during my service in the forces. No offence taken :P see, I`m smiling.
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half were over here, the other half at home, therefore equal roads... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he is refering to the roads in the Irish Republic,(EIRE) and he is right when he states that the roads are very bad, especially in the West of Eire.
Anyway as you said You are Ulster so you of all people should know Ulster in Britain, not Ireland.
One thing that got me regarding mapping coverage in eire i know its a little bad but surely not as bad as Eastern Europe i.e Poland,Romania etc.
Thanks for the reply's - Mark
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well technically no Ulster is part of the United Kingdom …… Britain is England, Scotland and Wales Rolling Eyes .... I'll get me coat 8O
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn`t intend to start a geography debate, but suffice it to say hoggy has it right. The whole island is called Ireland, Ulster and Eire are subdivisions of 6 and 26 counties respectively.
here endeth the lesson.. :P
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