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Petekk Regular Visitor
Joined: Mar 06, 2004 Posts: 137
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject: Parking / Laser detector |
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Has anyone tried the Parking & Laser detector such as http://www.speedsafe.co.uk/product.php?id=171
Would appear to be a usefull addition for the gps database, and be more reliable than dashboard devices |
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jimbokb Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 17, 2005 Posts: 253 Location: Middlesex
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I have just had a look at it and read the gumph and it looks good.
I think the parking sensors is a nice touch as I have just had a bill for a paint job to the back of my car (£297.00) for backing into a flippin lampost during a three point turn. _________________ TTG 300,External Aerial
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Unless it's specifically tuned to 904Nm which is the wavelength of a Laser Gun then it's a waste of money.
Of all the systems I have tested so far, Drive-Smart's optional external laser detector is the only one that actually detects laser effectively. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Petekk Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:56 am Post subject: |
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I have read the info on drivesmart.
AIUI the reason why number of dashboard devices are less effective is due to the location on the dashboard, which the laser is pointed low down on the car. The drivesmart detects the signal due to the location of the sensor.wh
No doubt others can look into tuned / vs non tuned devices as you suggest.
The thing that worries me with the drivesmart is the info on the additional jammer device.
I have read previously, of a case where the plod turned up early one morning and took a vehicle away on a low loader. Apparantly due to the fact that a speed reading could not be obtained. If a reading cannot be obtained the registration number is flagged. If a reading cannot be acheived again, then a visit is made and the vehicle examined.
This appears to need further research.
PDA users dont really need another GPS based solution, therefore an additional standalone laser detector seems a ideal product. (I am aware than the drivesmart can be used as a gps receiver) |
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Petekk Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Just doing some research on this, and find a post by Darren regarding the action taken with laser jammers.
The Drivesmart is a laser detector (i.e which the governement wishes to ban), and the jammer is likely to cause a visit from the law - even if you avoid a ticket.
Whilst the Drivesmart may be a technically advanced device, I suspect that the product may be very short lived.
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And you could of course use that as your defence if you choose but you'd still be facing a prosecution. If you're flagged as having passed a speed check where they couldn't get a lock your VRN is logges and added to PNC. If your number comes up again then you can expect a visit from Police and a vehicle inspection. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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This whole area is admittedly very confused. The Road Safety Bill which sought to outlaw 'active detection' which includes the use of laser and radar detectors never made it before parliament was dissolved.
There is not currently any information on if or when this will be resurrected.
If it is then it would conceivably allow a grace period before devices became prohibited and even were it to heard soon and proceed through to law without hindrance it could be two years before it was in force.
The laser jammer subject is again similarly confused. There appears to be a lot of rumour surrounding these devices. I have quoted alleged action in this area but subsequent attempts to verify the stories have failed. There have been NO convictions for the use of such devices to date. Whilst a driver could face a charge for perverting the course of justice it is by no means a clear cut case and the CPS have not yet decided that this would be worthwhile pursuing.
All clear as mud sadly, my advice? Use a good database and drive responsibly. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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DriveSmart Regular Visitor
Joined: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 60
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Petekk wrote: | Just doing some research on this, and find a post by Darren regarding the action taken with laser jammers.
The Drivesmart is a laser detector (i.e which the governement wishes to ban), and the jammer is likely to cause a visit from the law - even if you avoid a ticket.
Whilst the Drivesmart may be a technically advanced device, I suspect that the product may be very short lived.
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And you could of course use that as your defence if you choose but you'd still be facing a prosecution. If you're flagged as having passed a speed check where they couldn't get a lock your VRN is logges and added to PNC. If your number comes up again then you can expect a visit from Police and a vehicle inspection. |
The Drivesmart system and also the other products we are developing are not short lived systems by any means.
What we have done is to show people how technology should be designed and implemented and also to demonstrate it works well.
So many heavily marketed products on the market fall short of delivering what they are ment to and do not meet customers expectations.
If you look at Snooper and Road angel for example their products are stale and have not evolved at all over the past 3 years,All they have done is to repackage/merge the products but without developing anything new or interesting.
All they are interested in is the £50 a year subscription charges.They could not care a less about the customer.
The internal pulse laser detector system can be switched off through the menu system as well. :D
The government is 12 months+ away from even trying to push anything through.
Lots of scare mongering around the net regarding diffusers,I have yet to find an actual prosecution for using such a device anywhere.
Our new products that we have under development will excite the whole GPS community and we will be showing Darren prototypes real soon and giving him exclusive information for the site. :D |
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