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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Camera database for the Alpine Blackbird? Reply with quote

Anyone know where I can get a database of camera locations for the Alpine Blackbird?

It uses the Navteq database - does that make it easier?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have any links to the device itself so we can figure out what it is?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.alpine-europe.com/blackbird/EN/index.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an new one on me, do you know if it actually supports custom POIs? We need to know what format it uses, we have a wide range and one of our existing formats may work.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Darren,

Thanks for looking in to this.

The manual for the Blackbird can be found here:
http://www.restricted.alpine-electronics.co.uk/support/ownersdatabase/PMD-B100P-Blackbird/OM_PMD-B100P_EN.pdf

Looking at it, you can see on Page 28 that you can enter Personal POI's but there are no details on format. Would it be standardised for the Navteq database (same as Nuvi perhaps?) or am I being naive!?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxr750steve wrote:
Looking at it, you can see on Page 28 that you can enter Personal POI's but there are no details on format. Would it be standardised for the Navteq database (same as Nuvi perhaps?) or am I being naive!?

Navteq are the map data providers. That's a different thing entirely. Navteq map data appears on many different manufacturers devices and they use a variety of different POI formats. What format, how and indeed if they allow custom POIs at all is down to the manufacturer.

I've had a look at the manual but can't see any reference to the importing of custom POIs, maybe a call to Alpine might elicit that information?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks - you can tell it's all new to me....

Don't think the manual will tell you much though - didn't seem to really give guidance on that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:

I've had a look at the manual but can't see any reference to the importing of custom POIs, maybe a call to Alpine might elicit that information?


I've sent Alpine an e-mail - let's see what comes back.

Just a thought - might it be the same as with the Alpine higher end unit (can't remember what that's called - something 99 if I remember right).

I'll be back when Alpine get back to me (assuming they do....)

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny, this weekend i was trying to discover the exact same thing for my brother who has just got the Alpine Blackbird.
At the time I could not find any indication anywhere about loading custom POI's. I did notice that the accompanying SD card had Alpines own speed cameras loaded, in a format I did not recognise. Then earlier this morning I read a post on another forum that said it was possible to load CSV format data to the unit, but thats all that was said, the post gave no indication as to how you go about loading the data.
What I now suspect is that you create a folder on your the SD card and give this folder a appropriate name (i.e Pubs) and into this folder load a .CSV table of the POI's you what to add, this can be done by using a card reader or just connecting the Blackbird to your PC via USB cable and have the PC recognise the unit as a Mass Storage device.
Next go to the main menu on the GPS by touching the square symbol top right of the screen, then select EDIT and then ADD POI's.
Unfortunately I myself can not test this now as my brother has the unit and is away on business for a couple of weeks. If this works for you please let us know.
You can get your .CSV POI's from this site, see here
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=POIs
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get the speed camera database on the Blackbird via the custom POI feature.

I have the SCDB listing on mine - see here:

ADMIN Edit: Link removed

Works a treat!
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've deleted your link, bad form to post links to competitors.

We offer a camera database that is we believe far superior to the one you linked to but theirs is cheaper. We're also 100% open about our methods and our data and offer lifetime subscriptions for qualifying reports.

Your choice of course and whilst we're fairly laid back we do draw the line at using our forums to advertise for them!
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
I've deleted your link, bad form to post links to competitors.

We offer a camera database that is we believe far superior to the one you linked to but theirs is cheaper. We're also 100% open about our methods and our data and offer lifetime subscriptions for qualifying reports.

Your choice of course and whilst we're fairly laid back we do draw the line at using our forums to advertise for them!


Ooops! Sorry guys - you are right to delete it and sorry for being a little on the dim side tonight!
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry if you mis-understood my post, I know you can get the Alpines SCDB on the Alpine, loading via the SD card. In short what I tried to say is that I have read that the Alpine accepts file formats of the .CSV type. If a custom data base is loaded onto the SD card in .CSV form, you may be able to then import from the SD on to the GPS unit.
This site has such data bases, see my last post.
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