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tonygamble
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: 910 and WMA Reply with quote

I'm building up a library of WMA music files downloaded from Napster.

Can I safely assume that they will play on my 910 when I get the long awaited FM transmitter?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 910 doesn't support WMA as far as i know, the ones i had certainly didn't show up in the list of songs, so i converted all my WMA's to MP3's, which is a shame because WMA sounds better than MP3's when you compare them at the same bit rate.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you mean? The FM transmitter allows you to play music files stored on your 910 over the radio speakers. I think that only the mp3 format is supported.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim,

I mentioned FM in passing to explain that I wanted my 910 to play my music.

I spent an hour googling before I posted my question and came up with several references to the 910 handling both MP3 and WMA. But that is not to say they were true.

And hence my post to here - the fountain of all TT knowledge.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just run another test with some WMA's and they definitely don't work. I even tried creating a wma folder in the route of the drive and putting songs in it, but the player still doesn't see it them.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Andy,

So I'd need to convert them to MP3 if I wanted to load them.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately mate yes you do. When you convert them go up one level in bit ratio to keep the quality, i.e. 128 bit wma to 160 bit mp3
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy,

I really don't want a duplicate set of every music track in WMA and MP3 format on my laptop if I can avoid it.

Do you happen to know if I can do the conversion on the fly as I transfer the library to the 910 ?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonygamble wrote:
Andy,

I really don't want a duplicate set of every music track in WMA and MP3 format on my laptop if I can avoid it.

Do you happen to know if I can do the conversion on the fly as I transfer the library to the 910 ?

Tony


No i don't know of anything that can do what you ask. But if you get a music converter that lets you do "batch conversion" you can leave the pc to convert everything to MP3's and then just delete the WMA's after, thats all i did. I used something called "dBpoweramp music converter" but there are plenty of others to choose from.

I only had a couple of hundred WMA's thou, the other 7000+ files were MP3 anyway. And no i dont have all those on my 910, just a select 300 or so :P
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Andy,

I'll look around.

MP3 files are about twice as large as WMA? Yes?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really. To get the same audio quality from MP3 as an WMA you have to go up to the next standard bit rate which makes the files about 30% bigger approximately.

Example: to get a MP3 sounding as good as a 128bit WMA you would have to encode the MP3 at 160bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks,

I'll come back when I've looked at conversion software.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm back!

Snag is that the WMA to MP3 software, certainly not that DBpower one mentioned above, does not work with Napster to Go files.

So it's off to the shops to buy another device for my music, tomorrow.

Rather a waste of that big hard disk on my 910 - but learnt the lesson too late.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang on a minute don't go wasting your money just yet. I think the problem you are having is that the WMA files that you have are protected by DRM and I don't personally know of an easy way to strip DRM from WMA files. It's the DRM that is stopping you from converting to MP3.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy,

Yes it will be the DRM.

If you have any suggestions I am certainly willing to have another bash at converting them.


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