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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Speed Cameras - A confession at long last? Reply with quote

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...c=NEWS&ct=5
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that didn't take too long to 'pull'.
Did the minister concerned find it too embarrassing, or too sensitive?
The report was far too long to put here, hence the link.
Basically, reporters had gone undercover and approached traffic camera
manufactures and discovered evidence we had suspected long ago…allegedly.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right then, lets try here shall we
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410449&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NEWS&ct=5
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hemlock wrote:
Well, that didn't take too long to 'pull'.
Did the minister concerned find it too embarrassing, or too sensitive?
The report was far too long to put here, hence the link.
Basically, reporters had gone undercover and approached traffic camera
manufactures and discovered evidence we had suspected long ago…allegedly.
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Not 'pulled' just moved:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410539&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hemlock wrote:
Well, that didn't take too long to 'pull'.
Did the minister concerned find it too embarrassing, or too sensitive?
What is there to be embarrassed about? Speed Cameras have overwhelming public support and a politician has nothing to apologise about when he is giving his constituency what they want.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is there to be embarrassed about? Speed Cameras have overwhelming public support and a politician has nothing to apologise about when he is giving his constituency what they want.
Tony


He may be giving his constituency what ever they want; after all, it’s in the interest of the government in which he is a member of.
I take it you did read the first article in full?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He may be giving his constituency what ever they want; after all, it’s in the interest of the government in which he is a member of.
I take it you did read the first article in full?
I thought so but maybe I missed anything you find deserving of embarrassment. In summary speeding motorists are paying "buckets of money" into general government funds, and if that is so they will be reducing the tax burden on less heavy-footed members of society. How red should any Minister's face be for that revelation?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tgold wrote:
Speed Cameras have overwhelming public support


Eh? Most people think they were just there to make money!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tgold wrote:
Speed Cameras have overwhelming public support
Eh? Most people think they were just there to make money!
I doubt that. In fact most people think they save lives. But whatever they think and whether it is right or wrong, support them they do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=203051&in_page_id=1770
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How red should any Minister's face be for that revelation?
Tony

When you see extracts like these for instance!

"...will add new weight to the public's perception that the gadgets are designed more for making money than improving road safety".

"and promised: 'There will be so much money coming in you won't know what to do with it".
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hemlock wrote:
tgold wrote:
How red should any Minister's face be for that revelation?
Tony

When you see extracts like these for instance!

"...will add new weight to the public's perception that the gadgets are designed more for making money than improving road safety".

"and promised: 'There will be so much money coming in you won't know what to do with it".
You underestimate the intelligence of your fellow citizens. I doubt that is a "public" perception, just a local one amongst certain groups like this one. The public also knows the difference between "making money" and contributing to government funds and many, perhaps including all non-motorists, will be pleased that some of the excess funds will go to non-road purposes.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You underestimate the intelligence of your fellow citizens. I doubt that is a "public" perception, just a local one amongst certain groups like this one. The public also knows the difference between "making money" and contributing to government funds and many, perhaps including all non-motorists, will be pleased that some of the excess funds will go to non-road purposes.
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Nowhere in the article is ‘safety’ the overriding positive feature that is promoted.
Only the money generated seems to be the dominant element in this saga.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tgold wrote:
In fact most people think they save lives.


Really? Do YOU think they save lives or that they are there to make money?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
tgold wrote:
In fact most people think they save lives.
Really? Do YOU think they save lives or that they are there to make money?
What I think is that you are trying to change the subject :-)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tgold wrote:

You underestimate the intelligence of your fellow citizens. I doubt that is a "public" perception, just a local one amongst certain groups like this one. Tony


So do you think “certain groups like this one” perpetrate myths about the role of safety cameras?
I say again, nowhere in the article is ‘safety’ the overriding positive feature that is promoted.Only the money generated seems to be the dominant element in this saga.
I rest my case.
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