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dcolumbus3
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Waas or not to Waas? Reply with quote

I have a a couple of newbie nuvi questions:
1. My nuvi 350 has the option to turn Waas off or on (default is off). Why would I not want Waas to be on? What is the downside of having it always on?
2. Turning Waas on or off does not seem to have any effect on the accuracy of the reading; as indicated on the "satellite" screen, the accuracy of the reading seems to be 15-20 feet regardless of whether Waas is on or off. Shouldn't having Waas on increase the accuracy of the reading?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome

The quick answer is that WAAS (aka EGNOS/SBAS) won't do any harm and it will make your GPS position more accurate under certain conditions.

It has to "see" the WAAS satellite which is in the South East, quite low in the sky.

I don't know if the Nuvi has a satellite screen so it's a bit of guess work to know if it's working. Go to the top of a hill or an open space (big outdoor car park) where you have a good view to the SE and wait 5 or 10 minutes to see if the accuracy improves. When it's working it claims 6 to 12 feet accuracy.


The long answer can be found in this thread. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the quick and informative reply! :D

I should probably have clarified that I live in Michigan in the US; I wonder if the WAAS satellite(s) are more or less accessible from my location as compared to yours?

The nuvi does have a screen which shows the various satellites and the relative signal strength from each, eas well as a calculated location accuracy (in feet). Perhaps one is for the WAAS satellite; I will check.

So you don't think enabling the WAAS function has any negative effects such as reducing battery life? Question
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waas in the states works better than here in the uk....i beleive the sat for waas is higher in the sky in the usa than in the uk...i got down to 2-3 feet at times whilst geocaching there on vacation...in the uk the gps slows down trying to get the waas/egnos sat so i personnely would'nt recommend it here..
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One downside of having it turned on is slightly reduced battery life, but I don't know by how much.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dcolumbus3 wrote:
I should probably have clarified that I live in Michigan in the US; I wonder if the WAAS satellite(s) are more or less accessible from my location as compared to yours?


Sorry, I presumed you were in the UK! Embarassed Laughing

zogman's experience is the same as mine - it works much better in the USA than the UK. Switch it on and enjoy!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Sorry, I presumed you were in the UK! Embarassed Laughing

Wouldn't it be helpful if everybody completed their location in their profile! Wink

I really don't understand the reluctance to do so.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zogman wrote:
waas in the states works better than here in the uk....i beleive the sat for waas is higher in the sky in the usa than in the uk...


erm - no. They are both in geostationary orbits. But the WAAS birds have a stronger signal.

By the way, South-East was correct. The WAAS birds sit on either side of the american continent, one over the east pacific, the other over the west atlantic.

Be aware that SiRF III and WAAS don't go together very well. WAAS may actually degrade the positional accuracy of a SiRF III fix.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lbendlin wrote:
zogman wrote:
waas in the states works better than here in the uk....i beleive the sat for waas is higher in the sky in the usa than in the uk...


erm - no. They are both in geostationary orbits. But the WAAS birds have a stronger signal.


Yes, but the orbit in equatorial and in the UK we are 50 to 60 degrees North so the satellites are fairly low on the horizon compared to the USA where you will typically be 30 to 50 degrees North.

It's interesting that you say the WAAS satellites have a stronger signal - maybe that explains why it's so difficult to get EGNOS to work in the UK even in good conditions. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the sun in the states goes over your head whereas the sun in the uk is lower to the south, so the sats are the same in relation to the sun ..hope that makes sense... 8O
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