Home PageFacebookRSS News Feed
PocketGPS
Web
SatNav,GPS,Navigation
MacFixer, the iPhone, iPod, and iPad specialists
Pocket GPS World - SatNavs | GPS | Speed Cameras: Forums

Pocket GPS World :: View topic - Route Problems
 Forum FAQForum FAQ   SearchSearch   UsergroupsUsergroups   ProfileProfile   Log in for private messagesLog in for private messages   Log inLog in 

Route Problems
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Pocket GPS World Forum Index -> TomTom Portable Navigation Devices
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
iyad
Occasional Visitor


Joined: Mar 11, 2006
Posts: 47
Location: Surrey, UK

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Route Problems Reply with quote

Why do I get the most Ridicules routes? I navigate to a post code and I have TT910 preferance set at the fastest, Iget a route taking me via small country lanes which takes double the time. What I am doing wrong? Please help as it is driving me crazy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
alix776
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 03/05/2003 14:45:49
Posts: 3999
Location: leyland lancs ENGLAND

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where is the postcode, is it in a rural area?
_________________
currently using aponia truck navigation on windows phone. Good bye IOS don't let the door hit you on the way out .

Oh the joys of being a courier.
device Lumia 950 xl
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
iyad
Occasional Visitor


Joined: Mar 11, 2006
Posts: 47
Location: Surrey, UK

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. I am going say from Epsom in Surrey to Biggin Hill in Kent. Rather than take me on A roads I am directed into a very small lanes
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
alix776
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 03/05/2003 14:45:49
Posts: 3999
Location: leyland lancs ENGLAND

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you pm me the start and finish pls ill check it with mine
_________________
currently using aponia truck navigation on windows phone. Good bye IOS don't let the door hit you on the way out .

Oh the joys of being a courier.
device Lumia 950 xl
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
ukweb
Occasional Visitor


Joined: Jun 20, 2006
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem: Sad

My Tom Tom is fine for ordinary navigation, but I have a fairly large motorhome and the Tom Tom will insist on sending me down unclassified roads which aren't suitable for a large vehicle.

I have E-mailed TomTom but they haven't really given a logical reply.

What I would like to do is tell the damn thing to stay on A and B roads until close to the destination. There are options to select walking routes (yeh, that will get used a lot) and bicycle routes (ditto), but apparently no option for selecting main roads only.

One suggestion from The Link was to select the route and then go through the route deselecting any unclassified roads, but that would probably take longer than driving there!


Paul
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
linknet
Frequent Visitor


Joined: May 05, 2005
Posts: 872

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
What I would like to do is tell the damn thing to stay on A and B roads until close to the destination. There are options to select walking routes (yeh, that will get used a lot) and bicycle routes (ditto), but apparently no option for selecting main roads only.

One suggestion from The Link was to select the route and then go through the route deselecting any unclassified roads, but that would probably take longer than driving there!

I totally agree. It should be possible to force it to stay off unclassified roads until only absolutely neccessary to finally reach the destination.

If you try deselecting any unclassified roads it will choose a whole lot more alternative unclassified roads. You can carry on for quite a while like this until it finally decides there is no alternative but to route on main roads.

The only other way is to select relevant via points on main roads to change the route. This usually requires local knowledge in which case you wouldn't need the thing anyway.

All in all the TomTom routing is a joke, unfortunately most of the other navigation packages are the same. The only one I have found to give slightly better routes is Navigon but this is extremely difficult to use.

In the 21st century is this really the best that can be achieved.

Roger
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SpeedCam
Frequent Visitor


Joined: Mar 18, 2004
Posts: 753
Location: Biggleswade, BEDS

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomTom's routing has got worse with later versions of software.

V3 allowed you to select the preferred road types, along with the way routes were calculated.

V5 dropped all this and I was very concerned, but luckily the routes generated were still go.

Then comes V6, routing has taken a BIG step backwards, now TomTom believes that central London is a better route than the M25.

I logged a call with TT support and they said an update would improve things, but could not guarantee a fix. Having delt with TT support my 910 was returned until this problem is fixed.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
alix776
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 03/05/2003 14:45:49
Posts: 3999
Location: leyland lancs ENGLAND

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at the moment yes it is the best that can be acheived this is problem with all satnav that it will take you down what you might term narrow roads this is where the driver has to make a choice between going down a road or checking the route in map mode of the device.

it has to be said that any sat nav is designed primerily for cars only and this is very apparent for tomtom even garmin in truck mode usually produces similar routes to tomtom in limited speed the can be said for iGO as well though my preferance is for iGO's routing at the moment it seams the pick of the bunch

for tomtom if your going to a rural area then there is a good chance that you will get sent down a narrow road
it a driver aid after all

rant over Laughing Laughing
_________________
currently using aponia truck navigation on windows phone. Good bye IOS don't let the door hit you on the way out .

Oh the joys of being a courier.
device Lumia 950 xl
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
Tumbleweed
Frequent Visitor


Joined: Aug 30, 2004
Posts: 315

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Route Problems Reply with quote

iyad wrote:
Why do I get the most Ridicules routes? I navigate to a post code and I have TT910 preferance set at the fastest, Iget a route taking me via small country lanes which takes double the time. What I am doing wrong? Please help as it is driving me crazy.


Its because they dont have the wit to produce a 'prefer major roads' option, instead of giving us, for example, the totally useless 'shortest route'.

There are many reasons why the option of a route that kept you on major roads (without doing stupid detours) would be a good idea, for example minimise the 'rat run' problem, make navigation easier, good for drivers of oversize vehicles, good for passengers who get car sick, an dprobably often quicker as well.

Tw
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
linknet
Frequent Visitor


Joined: May 05, 2005
Posts: 872

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
at the moment yes it is the best that can be acheived this is problem with all satnav that it will take you down what you might term narrow roads this is where the driver has to make a choice between going down a road or checking the route in map mode of the device.

My gripe is that it is the best so far that has been achieved but not the best that could be achieved. I think it is a case of could do much better. A few more routing options would help for a start. How about a button to avoid unclassified roads, another to prefer 'A' Roads etc.

Now checking the route in map mode of the device is actually quite difficult, particularly with TomTom, since the route completely covers the roads in question. So without tapping on each road to determine it's type there's no way of telling where you're being sent. So a simple button to either temporarily hide or make transparent the overlaid route so you could actually see the type of road would be easy enough to implement.

All in all a case of could do much better. Rolling Eyes

Regards

Roger
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
linknet
Frequent Visitor


Joined: May 05, 2005
Posts: 872

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Its because they dont have the wit to produce a 'prefer major roads' option, instead of giving us, for example, the totally useless 'shortest route'.

I agree totally.

Regards

Roger
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Andy_P
Pocket GPS Moderator
Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005
Posts: 19991
Location: West and Southwest London

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alix776 wrote:
at the moment yes it is the best that can be acheived this is problem with all satnav that it will take you down what you might term narrow roads


Sorry, second time tonight I've had to disagree.
It ISN'T the best that can be achieved as it is accepted that the routing has got WORSE on the newer TomToms.
As others have said, I would far prefer that TT spent a bit of effort producing some more routing options and sorting out other problems with the core functionality, rather than implementing iPod control and other non-essential extras.
It can't be that hard to do, as the system already must know the road classifications in order to work out its "fastest" routes.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ukweb
Occasional Visitor


Joined: Jun 20, 2006
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may take mine back for a refund and wait until they work properly
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Scarecrow
Lifetime Member


Joined: Jun 09, 2006
Posts: 185
Location: Kent

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Garmin Nuvi is just as bad. I live in a narrow country lane, and it's about 400 yards to the nearest decent road (a slightly wider country lane). My Nuvi insists on taking me the opposite direction on the really narrow lane, irrespective of where my final destination is.

I even asked it to calculate a route from my house to the not so narrow country lane by the shortest route. You guessed it, it took me in the opposite direction on a round the houses tour, taking 3 miles instead of the 400 yards if it had gone the right way!! Very annoying.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
iyad
Occasional Visitor


Joined: Mar 11, 2006
Posts: 47
Location: Surrey, UK

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To just explain how stupied this can get. I get to about a mile from my house and TT910 insist to take me for 4 miles tour to get home!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message







Posted: Today    Post subject: Pocket GPS Advertising

Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Pocket GPS World Forum Index -> TomTom Portable Navigation Devices All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Make a Donation



CamerAlert Database

Click here for the PocketGPSWorld.com Speed Camera Database

Download Speed Camera Database
22.063 (19 Jun 24)



WORLDWIDE SPEED CAMERA SPOTTERS WANTED!

Click here to submit camera positions to the PocketGPSWorld.com Speed Camera Database


12mth Subscriber memberships awarded every week for verified new camera reports!

Submit Speed Camera Locations Now


CamerAlert Apps



iOS QR Code






Android QR Code







© Terms & Privacy


GPS Shopping