New cameras

SpacedMan · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject: New cameras

Hi, Are you going to start including bus lane, Pink eye and DS2 cameras in the database?

When my system finds a pink eye it shows it as a gatso.

Spaced-Man

Tim Buxton · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject:

Truvelo (pink eye, if you prefer) are in the Gatso database but are identified as Truvelo. DS2 are covered by Mobile, I suspect and Bus Lane cameras are being considered as an addition.
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Andy_P · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject:

Bus lane cams have been talked about in the last couple of days over in the TomTom part of the forum , HERE

Nickwolf · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 219

I am not sure bus lane cameras should be included in the database since I can think of no safety advantage in knowing their location.

I have similar reservations about the red light cameras but the genie is out of the bottle with those so to speak.

It seems to me that when the Government banned the camera detectors but left the GPS systems alone it was purely because there was an argument to be made that pointing out the location of accident black spots would help road safety.

IMHO if you start down the road of identifying the location of all types of enforcement camera the police etc. are likely to start asking for the subject to be looked at again.

Nick.

Privateer · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject:

Hi Nickwolf,

Darren · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject:

Personally I see no justification for bus lane or box junction cameras to be included. I also disagree with red light cameras except the Monitron versions that are dual purpose and can be used as speed cameras also.

Red light cameras were included (perhaps unwisely) at an early stage and so will remain for the time being, the others will require discussion!
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gdavison · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 27, 2005 Posts: 45

So here is the great thing .. the way I get the Garmin POI data is that its all spilt up ... IF I decide I dont want redlight cameras ... I just dont load them... the key thing about data is that the core "data base" should "have everything" and then be flexible enough so that people can take / use whats important to THEM

Nickwolf · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 219

You are missing the point a little bit, it is not a question of using that part of the database or not but whether it should be there at all.

Since having knowledge of which traffic lights have red light cameras does help to improve the safety of your driving I find it questionable and obviously the same would apply to bus lane cameras etc.

I think if the database can be seen as a system for avoiding enforcement cameras, and not something to assist you to drive safely, the police and other agencies might find cause to question whether it should be able to exist.

Nick.

markjohnson · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 20, 2006 Posts: 41

Hi,

I don't have a strong view of bus lane or redlight camera benefits. I have a slight preference for them not being included.

In fact I don't download the redlight cameras at all.

Having speed cameras is clearly a safety benefit if they tend to be present in blackspot areas. That they keep my licence clean is also a good thing Smile

As I'm sure you all know it is all too easy to exceed the limit by just a few mph.

Kind regards,

Mark

Nickwolf · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 219

Adek · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject:

I think I would have to agree with most of the other posts- red light cameras and bus lane cameras probably should not be in there.

we all know you should not jump a red light and you should not go in bus lanes when they are in force, so the safety issue is not really applicable with them.

Adek

markjohnson · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 20, 2006 Posts: 41

neil01 · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject:

I know what people are saying about you shouldn't be warned about something you should never do by accident such as go in a bus lane or jump a red light, wheras even the most compliant of us have sometimes inadvertantly gone over the speed limit.

However, I feel strongly that there is a valid reason for including red light cameras. While you still have time to procede at amber when you are close to the line as the lights change, just as a safe driver should, I have all too often seen drivers do an (unsafe) emergency stop when it is clearly unwise to do so. I for one welcome the warning that I am approaching lights where the car in front may suddenly stop rather than pull up in a controlled manner!

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