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Old_Phil
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Go on a push bike Reply with quote

Now that v5 has different planning options, including "bicycle routes", has anyone mounted their GO on the handlebars of their pushbike?

If so, how did they do it? A browse through google unearthed a site that makes specialised mounts for motorbikes but I couldn't see any prices (looks expensive). So, how about getting an additional mount (ebay have plenty) and adapting?

Before I venture into the workshop and try bodging, I thought I'd ask if anyone else has or is about to be inspired.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old_Phil,

I'm in the middle of creating a TTG fitment mechanism for my motorbike. As you say, I bought an extra cradle off ebay (company called Lindens - very good service) and have welded up my own fixed bracket to bolt onto the top yoke. I've also hot-wired the cradle to provide a sound feed to the helmet intercom so I can actually Jane's dulcet tones.

Once that's complete I'm contemplating creating a cycle mount. The TTG is a fairly hefty piece of kit to have flapping about, so my intention is to use a handlebar clamp from a pair of tri-bars, use a longer bolt on the front hole and some spacers/washers to allow the TTG cradle to attach. (I hope this makes sense).

For both the motorbike and the cycle mount I will also use a velcro strap arrangement to provide additional mouting security as the clip-in mechanism is (in my opinion) not really designed for such stresses.

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Rich
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich,

I've sent off for a spare cradle (from same place you recommended). I don't need the power cable (I'll keep it as a spare - I'm going to build a regulated converter to create a permanent 5v supply in the car so it will come in handy for that) so I will have to cannibalise the mount for parts to affix to the handlebars.

When you have made your mount perhaps you'd share a picture?

Phil
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old_Phil,

I had a spare half hour in the garage and knocked up the mark one bicycle mount. This first picture shows the TTG from the business end.



The mounting bracket itself is just a plastic grip-type bracket as used to mount lights etc. Ideally it would have been a sturdier metal bracket but I've found that my spare tri-bars have adhered themselves to my son's bike so those mounts weren't available.

A spacer was used to give just enough height to ensure that the base of the cradle rested on the mounting bracket, and some washers were used between the jaws of the cradle.



Note that this cradle is my modified one which gives a sound output jack socket. The picture also shows the velcro. The white bits are self adhesive.

And finally, a view from the back showing the velcro straps in place.



It seems pretty secure. Certainly OK for some road use, but off-road and a crash wouldn't do it much good!

Hope this may be of use.

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Rich
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Go on a push bike Reply with quote

Old_Phil wrote:
Now that v5 has different planning options, including "bicycle routes", has anyone mounted their GO on the handlebars of their pushbike?


I do wonder just how useful the cycle and walking routes are.

I have't used them in anger, but I did do a dummy walking route from my house to Warwick, 2 miles away. It routed me round the road (car route) even though there's a much shorter footpath which I would take if I actually walked it.

As far as I could see, the only concession to walking was that it took me the wrong way round a roundabout - because it was shorter.

I imagine that cycle routing would be identical to car routing - except for avoiding motorways. If so, you'd miss out on tracks and canal tow-paths etc.

Unless, of course, the v5 maps will include cycle and walking tracks?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich,

Many thanks for the photos - you have done a very neat job there (and I mean neat in both senses of aesthetically pleasing and clever!).

I don't do much off-roading, (there is a dis-used mine near our village which has rough tracks but not especially hazardous) so a bike mount for me does not have to withstand a shock much above bouncing gently up kerbs.

I also concur with Roger - the GO maps are limited to roads and lanes and don't know about public footpaths. I'm sure there are much better satnav devices for walking and cycling - the fact is I have a GO already and it makes sense to use it.

I tried bike mode from my son's school to home (about 4 miles) and was routed the wrong way down a one-way street. Last time I checked the highway code cycles had to obey traffic rules and you are not supposed to ride down pavements. I suppose I could dismount and walk!

Phil
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there
I've been using a RAM Mount to hold my PDA on my mountain bike and it's been rock solid for the year I've had it, including gentle off-road use on tracks and bridlepaths.
Just nipped to their UK website and they seem to do GO mounts now.
http://www.ram-mount-uk.com/
The PDA cradle and the arm to mount it on the handlebars came to about £25 with P&P etc, if I remember right.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Go on a push bike Reply with quote

rkm_hm wrote:
I do wonder just how useful the cycle and walking routes are.

I have't used them in anger, but I did do a dummy walking route from my house to Warwick, 2 miles away. It routed me round the road (car route) even though there's a much shorter footpath which I would take if I actually walked it.

Darren and I were in Amsterdam last week, and I used the walking mode extensively in the city. There were very big differences compared to "shortest" and "Fastest" routes. The main difference being that it routed down passages that are marked as not navigable, and definately took us by the shortest route.

For your walking route it is possible that the shorter footpath is not part of the teleatlas map data, which would stop TomTom routing down it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

barryd wrote:
Hi there
I've been using a RAM Mount to hold my PDA on my mountain bike and it's been rock solid for the year I've had it, including gentle off-road use on tracks and bridlepaths.
Just nipped to their UK website and they seem to do GO mounts now.
http://www.ram-mount-uk.com/
The PDA cradle and the arm to mount it on the handlebars came to about £25 with P&P etc, if I remember right.

We reviewed the RAM Cycle mount here a couple of years ago, and I can confirm that it is a great mount. I havent had the opportunity to try the new GO one, but RAM have a reputation of providing great reliable and robust solutions.

Another company producing a handlebar mounting system which should suit the GO (in terms of technical compatibility) is Herbert Richter. They produce the four pronged mount system that TomTom uses. You would also need the alternate GO mounting kit. I dont know anyone who sells these at the moment, but you could try www.memory-map.co.uk or easy devices.
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