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jakjon
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: To save from wading Reply with quote

I am new to gps and find everying complicated even the forums everybody seems to speak with a GPS tongue about 5 m from accuracy....Only joking,,,just need some info as i have been wanting gps for ages,,,,I wanted to know if you could use a handheld like Garmin or Magellan and connect it to your pc and use software sach as infomap with voice (do the handehelds work just as GPS receivers too.) And then which software I think Infomap is the cheapest UK and Europe for £50 (amazing) but I see you all recommend co-pilot £130 software only.The other question is for a complete solution I am interested in a GPS phone does anybody have the info on this and who would be my normal phone provider or do O2, Orange have any deals going on....
Any or all info would be appreciated....

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely Smile The vast majority of Garmin's handheld range offer what is known as 'NMEA Output' which in laymans terms means it has an interface which provides GPS position data to an external device such as a PC/Laptop, PocketPC etc.

NMEA is the defacto standard for position data and is used by neraly all apps which accept GPS Data.

With a suitable connecting lead you could as you wish plug the GPS Handheld into a laptop and have it 'drive' an application such as InfoMap Navigator.

InfoMap is a bargain and offers voice and routing but it is not very user friendly and has a cluttered screen layout, CoPilot laptop is by contrast the best laptop package you will find hence it's price.

As for GPS Cellphones, forget them, those from Garmin and Benefon are way behind regular handsets in terms of featires and whilst some handsets from '3' such as the Motorola's have GPS receivers, '3' do not allow access to the data as yet and even when they do it will likely be for use in selling location based services via the handset and not to allow the data to be sued as you wish.

I hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And of course everything Darren has said applies equally to most of the other manufacturers of handheld units - Magellan, Lowrance & Fortuna to name but three.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes indeed, my apologies for leaving the others out, Garmin may be the biggest name but not the only one by any means! My very first consumer GPS was a Magellan and an excellent handset it was too.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thank you for your swift replies ....I need to use GPS for in car(Europen routes) I also need portable accurate european major city plans which is for work. For me i would like something so i do not get lost in the hills ....any suggestions as the handhelds look more or less the same to me....

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Jack
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just to add even more confusion have you thought about the copilot for ms smartphone or route66 for the nokias the copilot looks the best and should give you (i think im right here but could be wrong) uk and european maps all on your moblie if you go on contract then somthing like the spv would be a lot cheeper than buying a pda and though you would end up buying the software and a gps receaiver
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok smartphones perhaps might be the future but they are not ready yet. I have checked Garmin do have NMEA output Magellan dont Lowrance have a website far too complicated for me. Does this mean I can connect a Foretrex to my PC and it will work. The size appeals to me....

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jakjon wrote:
I have checked Garmin do have NMEA output Magellan dont


I can assure you that Magellan units will definitely output NMEA at least according to http://www.magellangps.com/en/support/products/faqs/faq_meridian.asp#output, Lowrance I couldn't swear to, but it would be a strange decision not to allow it from a technical & marketing point of view.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again I thank you for your posts. I was looking at the cheaper Magellen models which dont support NMEA only because the internet retailer only offered these models. But again it only adds more to confusion Garmin or Magellan they both look the same I would like a colour display and the specs I have mentioned...Please give me a recommendation which of the handhelds would you buy to suit my needs.....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have still not received a recommendation surely out of all these members one of you have a handheld that you like...or pehaps not....
Simple requirements , NMEA output colour screen, on base memory for city maps, use in mountains as well. Garmin , Magellan, Lowrance, etc i have no brand loyalty...

Any advice much appreciated....


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