Just looked at their website. Judging by the map they let you see, it looks like they're US-only at the moment. So much for that idea, then.

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The problem with Waze is the contributors.

Routes are recorded, but not edited. The amount of times Waze has tried to route me on a private road, layby or industrial estate is beyond a joke.

It is simply too much hassle for people to edit once they've got home. So they dont. The amount of corrections I have had to make eventually gets to the point when I uninstall, and vow never again.

If you want a reliable, accurate(ish) and free solution. Google is the only real option.

I have ditched my Tom Tom and only use Waze on my iPhone now. It's not perfect - but then neither was Tom Tom. I travel all over the Uk and it's pretty accurate. It will get even better with time. My Tom Tom map was out of date and I wanted to go to an iPhone solution - Tom Tom for iPhone was around £50 - Waze was free - no brainer really!

I'm glad to see PGPSW have been giving Waze more coverage recently.
I think Tom Tom's recent press release regarding open source mapping was aimed at Waze as well as Openstreetmap. Waze are a real threat now.

Waze's business plan (selling their traffic data to third parties, such as local TV news in the US) prevented them from using the pre-existing OSM mapping.
When I started using it last year, most of my area was a blank map, but adding the routes I use everyday wasn't much of a chore, it was a similar process to editing the OSM maps, and it's got simpler over time.
Then last summer Waze purchased a basemap of the UK, which was merged with the mapping the users had already generated, and now I'd estimate that 90% of roads are mapped.

The first few months after that merge was a bit of a mess, but the map has now evolved to a point where I've not had to resort to using my TomTom as a backup since last year.

Door to door navigation probably doesn't match the big brands yet, but a full postcode usually gets me close enough. Speed Camera alerts don't work very well, but Cameralert running underneath runs like a dream.


POI searching doesn't just rely on the Waze mapping either. When you enter a search it polls Google, Bing and Foursquare amongst others, it's never failed to get me to where I needed to get to yet!

Relying on a data connection can be problematic if you happen to be driving though an area without 3G coverage, if you stick to the route it's fine, but if you go off route it cannot re-route until it gets a data connection again, so there is room for improvement there, but it's by no means a data hog.

Today's commute (42 mile round trip) used 4MB of data, if I wasn't beta testing their TTS engine it would have been lower (the TTS voice directions are generated on their server and streamed to your phone). The non-TTS voices are pretty nice sounding though.

Overall I think Waze is the best smartphone navigation app money doesn't buy

Surely there is room for both

Opensource for those who want to get nearly there some of the time, but do it for free and professional mapping solutions (which undoubtedly will include more opensource and crowdsource data over time)

I fall in to the latter - and would be willing to pay more more layers to my mapping

Lets be honest, for most of us, even Google's offering is far from something I would want to use


Maybe the professional mapping should switch to opensource for free for a basic map layer - providing it's used on a connected device, and they are allowed to collect data

Then added layers for lane guidance, junction views, POIs, road speed data, traffic data, detailed road quality information, etc. - all of which you are able to add on each layer as you go for whatever fees are right for the market

I notice TomTom is now talking of layers with their mapping - and I think this is the way to go

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Well, it all depends on the number of users.

i used Waze for the first time in Israel, You drive around there in the areas of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and you notice loads of other users around you on the map. Everybody uses it and keep the data up to date and it is extremely accurate. My brother lives there and uses it daily, it never fails him so he says.

In london when I drive around North West London I hardly see any users at all and that is the problem. Over time, when more people start using it it will get more and more accurate, it is in our hands to make it work.

Correct, sometimes it shows me incorrect routes but he, you still have to use your head as well with any of the GPS devices you use, otherwise you end up in Manchester when you want to drive to Brighton :-). It was the advantage of iGo I used before that (which at the time I got for free off the internet as well) I could see the overal map of the route and that is something I miss in Waze. I like to see the total route to make sure I am happy before starting to drive.