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Eleven Speed Cameras Per Mile
Article by: robert
Date: 20 Jan 2010
 Drivers of a 7.5-mile stretch of road in east London are bracing themselves for the installation of 84 average speed cameras. However, there is some good news for those in a hurry - when the cameras become operational next summer, the speed limit will be raised from 40mph to 50mph on a section of the route.
Situated between Canning Town and the Goresbrook interchange, the cameras will be spread out along multiple entrance and exit points of the A13.
Average speed cameras appear to be proving more acceptable to drivers than fixed speed cameras, but they still have their detractors. Speed camera zones that are introduced with a higher speed limit should go some way to bring many round.
It will be interesting to discover just how much of the A13 route's speed limit will in fact be increased. It will also be interesting how motorists gauge their average speed over two speed limits. Will there be zones within zones? Will more accidents be caused by speedo gazing?
According to Transport for London(TfL), the collision rate on the targeted stretch (500 between 2006 and 2008 including three fatal and 34 serious accidents) is almost 20 percent higher than on other typical London major roads. TfL blames half of these incidents on speeding and says that it hopes the scheme would halve the number of people killed or seriously injured along the road.
The BBC quote RAC Foundation director, Professor Stephen Glaister as saying "This is exactly the right way to target road safety: take specific action to target a specific problem."
Professor Glaister also stated that average speed cameras have the advantage of smoothing traffic flow rather than creating the stop-start sort of driving often associated with fixed cameras.
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 Posted by Graculus on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:58 pm |
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Seems a rather high concentration of cameras. Why does it need one per tenth of a mile or so (or maybe double that for cameras in both directions)?
Nevertheless, as ever, stats are used to lie or at least present a skewed view of the world:
TfL blames half of these incidents on speeding and says that it hopes the scheme would halve the number of people killed or seriously injured along the road.
That is implying that they want to eliminate all excessive-speed-related KSIs. That is unachievable, as there will always be some, no matter what you do.
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| Posted by GerryC on Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:50 am |
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As these are Specs cameras, there will be more than one on each pole. We've been having a bit of fun guessing how they would be arranged earlier here.
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| Posted by MaFt on Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:34 pm |
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| GerryC Wrote: | | As these are Specs cameras, there will be more than one on each pole. We've been having a bit of fun guessing how they would be arranged earlier here. |
thanks gerry - i couldn't, for some reason, find that post...!!
MaFt
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| Posted by Graculus on Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:28 am |
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| M8TJT Wrote: | | Graculus Wrote: | | That is implying that they want to eliminate all excessive-speed-related KSIs. That is unachievable, as there will always be some, no matter what you do. |
No  a half of (say) 10 deaths is 5 deaths, not zero deaths  Or even a half of a half of 10 is 2 deaths and a seriously injured  |
Er, no. What the article is trying to say is if there are 10 deaths, then half of them - 5 - are speed-related. They want to halve the number of deaths overall, i.e. bring it down from 10 to 5. The cameras won't affect the number of non-speed related deaths (still 5), ergo, they want to bring the speed-related deaths down from 5 to zero, leaving the total at 5, half the original 10.
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| Posted by Kerryseacadets on Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:34 pm |
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From next year!! already installed and under test from last week(both way between river rd & lodge ave flyover)
Kerry
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| Posted by M8TJT on Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:40 pm |
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Have you reported them on the submission page? 
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| Posted by Kerryseacadets on Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:28 pm |
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Yes reported Wednesday or Thursday, westbound installed first eastbound next day, now have signs on them stating that they are under test, I bet they wont confirm when 'test' goes to fully operational. I work next to site great pulling out onto a13 with one coned off while they set them up
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| Posted by freedy50 on Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:01 am |
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I, & possibly others, tried reporting the SPECS camera being trialled at Blackwall Tunnel & was told that because they weren't live they wouldn't be put on the database.
You may get the same answer.
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| Posted by Kerryseacadets on Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:38 am |
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My main concern would be that the date they go from trial to live is unlikely to be advertised, and I would prefer not to be notified of changeover with a speeding fine, I both live and work on this section of A13. Also would prefer to stop anybody else adding to speed camera coffers.
Kerry
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| Posted by freedy50 on Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:21 pm |
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| Kerryseacadets Wrote: | My main concern would be that the date they go from trial to live is unlikely to be advertised, and I would prefer not to be notified of changeover with a speeding fine, I both live and work on this section of A13. Also would prefer to stop anybody else adding to speed camera coffers.
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Its supposed to be starting in the summer anyway & I'm sure theyll tell people properly when it does start or theyll be in serious trouble.
Except for the Canning Town & Ripple Road flyovers the speed is going up to 50mph on the rest of the route.
As you know yourself, most of the time youre lucky to get up to 20mph along there 
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