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Tubal Occasional Visitor

Joined: Oct 05, 2005 Posts: 48
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: WAAS/EGNOS |
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Hate to revive this old chestnut but..... I was using the unit after I had swutched off the GPS so that it had defaulted back to Normal GPS. I noticed I was passing side streets before the unit showed me there. I changed it back to WAAS/EGNOS and the accuracy definately improved. I know this is theroetically impossible as it has been noted that EGNOS is not working yet!!!!
Anyway, I am off to Moinnesota on the 24th and I will give a report on how the I3 works when I get back. |
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59 Posts: 11878 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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EGNOS is working kinda sorta, but they still have the test flag up so you are not allowed to use it for life dependancy tasks.
WAAS on the other side (of the planet, that is) is already live since a while, and if you walk slowly enough and face south you may actually get it in Minnessota. _________________ Lutz
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zogman Frequent Visitor

Joined: Sep 05, 2005 Posts: 1417 Location: swindon uk
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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waas works really well in the states..it came in handy whilst geocaching with my 60c handheld in california in april..got down to 2 foot in places...as ibenlin says egnos is on and off in the uk while they test it... _________________ *************************** |
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Skippy Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: 24/06/2003 00:22:12 Posts: 2946 Location: Escaped to the Antipodies! 36.83°S 174.75°E
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with zogman here. I tried getting a WAAS fix while I was in New York and the Quest locked on with full 3D differential data for all 10 visible sats within a few minutes. That was from a cold start with last know fix being Heathrow..... 8O
EGNOS is a pile of crap in comparision. I can stand on top of a hill with a clear view in all directions (eg, I get 12 sats locked iwthout WAAS enabled), switch WAAS on and it either takes ages or it won't get a 3D Diff lock at all. Something isn't right with EGNOS - it was supposed to go live about 18 months ago wasn't it? _________________ Gone fishing! |
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Skippy Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: 24/06/2003 00:22:12 Posts: 2946 Location: Escaped to the Antipodies! 36.83°S 174.75°E
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: |
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StellaMaris wrote: | In the UK, should it be set for Normal or WAAS/EGNOS for best accuracy. |
Use either one and it will probably work just fine. Switching WAAS/EGNOS mode on may or may not make it more accurate. You probably won't notice any difference anyway because the mapping software snaps to the nearest road when you are within 60 feet of one, thus masking much of the positioning error... _________________ Gone fishing! |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15356 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Skippy wrote: | You probably won't notice any difference anyway because the mapping software snaps to the nearest road when you are within 60 feet of one, thus masking much of the positioning error... |
...but making it awkward when you're in morrisons car park and it thinks you're on the adjacent road!!
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15356 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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stella, i leave mine on normal - it's accurate enough for me seeing as it locks onto the nearest road whether you have it on egnos or normal. if you run off batteries they'll go quicker with egnog turned on due to it having to check extra receivers.
also, as skippy said, the eggnog system is still not fully functional...
all this talk of egg-nog has made me hungry, i'm off for my dinner now ;)
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Skippy Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: 24/06/2003 00:22:12 Posts: 2946 Location: Escaped to the Antipodies! 36.83°S 174.75°E
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, MaFt is right. The disadvantages are that WAAS uses more computing power and therefore the unit may be slower (updating the map/calculating routes) and the batteries may not last as long. _________________ Gone fishing! |
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stewart32 Occasional Visitor

Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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found this info very useful
been wondering what to set mine to normal seems to be the best choice |
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Aitch2 Regular Visitor

Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 226 Location: South Coast, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Actually, for all practical purposes, EGNOS is now fully operational in UK / wider EU
http://www.esa.int/esaNA/SEMKMQWO4HD_index_0.html
My experience is that using i3 in this mode is usually preferable. Battery life isn't an issue for me, as I always run it on the fag adaptor...
As usual - best advice is run the same route with one, then the other mode enabled - and make your own mind up! 8)
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zogman Frequent Visitor

Joined: Sep 05, 2005 Posts: 1417 Location: swindon uk
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:09 am Post subject: |
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as allways ,trial and error are the best recommendations...not all people want or need the same settings..... _________________ *************************** |
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Almahadeus Frequent Visitor

Joined: Aug 06, 2005 Posts: 346
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Agree with Aitch. Just today I was on a slip road by (almost underneath) a motorway when the GPS locked me onto the motorway and started going mad with recalculations. I stopped switched it to EGNOS for the first time since having my Garmin 6 months ago and voila, I was back on the right road very accurately. Really impressive and I am leaving it on that setting. |
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