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M62 cameras are live even when gantry signs are off
Article by: Darren Griffin
Date: 8 Oct 2013
It has come to light the speed cameras, installed on gantries over the M62, are live at all times. Until this information was revealed, it was believed that they were only active when matrix signs were illuminated to indicate a reduced speed limit.
The news came to light in an exchange between a motorist and West Yorkshire Police via Twitter when they queried being flashed by gantry cameras when the speed limit signs were off.
It has since been clarified that the cameras, managed by the Highways Agency, are capable of enforcing both variable speed limits and the national speed limit and can operate independently of the matrix speed signs.
Photograph courtesy of Mike Haliwell
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 Posted by MaFt on Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:23 pm |
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I've seen a few motorists get flashed but thee was a reduced limit at the time so wasn't aware of that.
The thing I'm still not clear on is that the speed signs are, technically, wrong. The highway code says speed limit signs are black text on a white background in a red circle. The ones in variable speed zones ("managed motorways") are white text on a black background...
Now if our registration plates have to stick to strict rules then so, surely, do speed limit signs. Has anyone got any info on this?! I've looked through the latest version of The Highway Code and there's no mention of alternative speed limit signs. The only mention of 'managed motorways' is a little bit that says some places have a variable speed limit...
MaFt
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| Posted by JimmyTheHand on Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:08 pm |
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| MaFt Wrote: | | Now if our registration plates have to stick to strict rules then so, surely, do speed limit signs. |
Difference is - they'll change the rules if their signs don't meet specification - Link
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| Posted by DennisN on Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:13 am |
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I think you may find they DID change the rules. The report mentions other signs would be involved and at the end of the report it says the Dept of Transport changed the rules to make them all legal.
And TBH I thought it was basic pgpsw policy to recommend staying within the national limit in such stretches because the cameraas would be capable of being operated over the national limit - just an expectation of them always being set to ON, with either the reduced or national limit?
Dennis
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| Posted by Quinny1 on Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:31 pm |
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And just a bit further on between Brighouse and Ainley Top, there are to be some more Specs cameras installed any day, as they are extending the central reservation concrete project.
I only know this, as my best mate installed the cable last Monday, and warned me.....
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| Posted by MaFt on Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:18 pm |
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| Quinny1 Wrote: | | I only know this, as my best mate installed the cable last Monday, and warned me..... |
Yet YOU take all the credit for submitting the locations 
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| Posted by ukemaxxer on Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:51 am |
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If these things are live all the time, do we know what speed they trigger at. I regularly travel through these, the ones at Nottingham and the ones on M25 at 80 plus and have heard nothing as a result.
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| Posted by M8TJT on Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:44 am |
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Nobody knows. When you get the NIP, perhaps you will let us all know ;=)
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| Posted by modelman093 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:53 am |
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So what about the ones on the M25 and M20 ?
It's a jungle out there!!!
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| Posted by emjaiuk on Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:54 am |
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| ukemaxxer Wrote: | | If these things are live all the time, do we know what speed they trigger at. I regularly travel through these, the ones at Nottingham and the ones on M25 at 80 plus and have heard nothing as a result. |
Speedo or GPS? On my VW T5 an indicated 80 shows as 77 on my GPS (on the straight and level) wich I ASSUME is within ACPO limits.
Somebody, who might of known, once told me National Limit camers were set at 80, but that's purely hearsay
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| Posted by M8TJT on Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:37 am |
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| emjaiuk Wrote: | | Somebody, who might of known, once told me National Limit camers were set at 80, but that's purely hearsay |
That's one of the problems with the WWW, hearsay, repeated often enough, soon becomes 'fact'. 
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