Speed Camera Position Sharers Face Court

RobBrady

Ten people face court after discussing the locations of speed cameras in France.

The motorists, who shared camera locations on Facebook (the Facebook page has 9000 members), were shocked to receive summonses telling them they were due in court in Rodez, Aveyron, in September.

One of the accused, truck driver David Alegre, who admitted sharing the information, said "I am being treated like a radar detector."

His lawyer's argument is that communicating information about the position of speed cameras on Facebook does not fall under the French ban on speed camera detectors.

As of 5th January 2012 Speed Cameras Warnings have been illegal in France. However, 'Warnings for Dangerous Zones' are legal.

The French data is available as an option in the PocketGPSWorld.com European database. Unfortunately until satnav manufacturers open up the 'warning zones' to 3rd parties we cannot comply with the French law as we only provide set points.

Use of the French data from PocketGPSWorld.com is at your own risk.

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Robert Brady

sussamb · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:22 am Post subject:

Probably not easy to accomplish but could the set points not be converted into 'zones'? Bit like the average speed cam zones in the UK?

If so I assume that would comply with the French law?

topbrass · Occasional Visitor Joined: Aug 21, 2007 Posts: 11

I always thought the "politicians" argument for speed cameras was to save lives, hence them being constantly being referred to as "Safety Cameras"
If that is true, sharing information regarding accident black spots can only be a good thing in helping to save lives, or am I being naïve? Shocked

M8TJT

MaFt

Darren · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:29 pm Post subject:

sussamb · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:34 pm Post subject:

Ah .. OK

Guess I've been spoilt by my Garmins Smile

Wazza_G · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:40 pm Post subject:

Would it not be possible to create a "Danger Zone Start" POI & a "Danger Zone End" POI?

So you get a warning for the commencement & termination points respectively. So in that way you know that somewhere between the commencement & termination points there's a camera!

And who's to define the length of the "Danger Zone", I mean a "Danger Zone" could be approaching a junction for example and conveniently there's a camera in there too... Odd that innit! Wink

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Darren · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:44 pm Post subject:

Wazza_G · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:07 pm Post subject:

I think you misunderstood.

What I am suggesting is that you create a new POI category for EUM countries which have such a system.

So let's use a UK village just for an example:

Say that you have a speed camera in the village of Westcott on the A25, so as you approach the village name boards either side of the village, there's a chime & RED notification that you're entering a "Danger Zone", when you get to the other end of Westcott, where the other name board is for traffic travelling the other way, you get a chime & GREEN notification to say you're now clear of the "Danger Zone".

Surely it cannot be that difficult to create Danger Zone Start & Danger Zone End POI's?
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M8TJT · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:21 pm Post subject:

Darren · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:24 pm Post subject:

And what about the many systems that have no concept of direction? That would mean they get a Red and Green alert going in and the same going out? And for every existing POI you'd then have, at a minimum, three more data sites, and, for other more complex areas, many more.

If it were as easy as you suggest we'd have done it. We've looked long and hard at it and can see no solution that we can implement within the constraints of the devices we have to support.
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M8TJT · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:35 pm Post subject:

It's bad enough with SPECS zones I suspect, trying to keep up with all those 'dummy' End cams to cancel CA when leaving a zone half way through.

DennisN · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:40 pm Post subject:

Fellwalker · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:30 am Post subject:

I like the idea of a zone within which drivers might drive within the speed limit, rather than a point which they brake hard to comply with, and accelerate afterwards. On British roads I detest the many drivers I have followed who (having overtaken me) brake to 5 or 10 mph below the speed limit and then accelerate away again. At least the French system reduces that effect.
What's wrong with obeying the law and driving within whatever speed limit is in place?
I took speed camera warnings off my satnav apps, but welcome accurate in - app notification of limit changes and top right display of the current limit.
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