Navigon Android Manual

tonygamble · Regular Visitor Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 186

Where can I download this, please?

Tony

C1man · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Navigon Android Manual

tonygamble · Regular Visitor Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 186

Thanks for the offer of help.

By way of background about a month ago I started trying to find a reliable and affordable in-car radio and satnav. I own a 22 year old Bentley and the radio was on the blink.

I soon learnt that reliable and in-car were not two words that sat easily together. I started experimenting with a Samsung 7.7 that I'd bought about two months ago.

By an incredible stroke of luck I found it sat comfortably in the car.

I also found that, in its case, it was also quite useable in my wife's Audi A3.

Initially I started the cheapo way by installing OsmAnd+. I was not all that happy with it so I bought Sygic.

The biggest problem, for me anyway, is that OsmAnd does not recognise post codes - and I use them all the time for my navigation in the UK.

Sygic was much better but still seemed flawed. It has a user forum and over the last few days it has been flooded with users saying 'Get your act together and do the things that Navigon does so much better!'

So I bit the bullet and bought a copy of Navigon. I spent almost two hours this morning looking for a Manual - as you say they do not exist. I then typed 'Making a route in Navigon' into Google and suddenly things became clearer.

I am bound to have lots of questions but my first thing is to make a simple route, put it in the car and see how it behaves - or misbehaves.

I've also put the software on my Samsung S4 phone - so I'll give that a go as well. The phone is a bit too small to see in the car so I might leave it for when I am walking - but more of that later.

Speak again soon....

Tony

tonygamble · Regular Visitor Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 186

Tim,

Is there a way I can select a spot on a map as some place I want to go 'via' as I construct a route?

Or does it have to be a poi or road/street?

Tony

C1man

tonygamble · Regular Visitor Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 186

Thanks Tim,

As I thought.

Earlier today I started to explore the exportation of routes from Google maps to Navigon. I understand it is possible but I have not cracked it yet.

Currently I cannot get my Samsung 7.7 to link to the PC. It did yesterday so I need to find out what has changed. It might be the Navigon software I put on the PC - I hope not.

Back soon.

Tony

tonygamble · Regular Visitor Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 186

Well I think we can rule out 'routes' in Navigon. I got the circuit I wanted by keying in a number of waypoints.

An early one must have been the off road drive of a block of flats.

I don't sail yachts but my understanding of racing is that if you miss going round a buoy you must go back and do it. It seems that Navigon is programmed the same way. Miss a waypoint - go back or lose one hundred points!

Needless to say I did not go up the drive to the flats. I went past and on to the intended route.

For probably fifteen minutes the 'man' kept trying to make me backtrack my route to go up this dreaded drive. I have no idea how long he would have persisted. Thank goodness for the off button.

I pulled into the side of the road and tried to set up a 'route' to the next waypoint. As you point out in your opening messages the route needs a start point. EDIT - NOT YOU TIME, SORRY, BUT A CHUM ON A NEARBY THREAD. I could find a way of choosing 'pick where I am now'. Yes I could say where I wanted to go to, as that was in my list of recently chosen road - but I had no idea precisely where I had stopped and I could not face the thought of being told to visit something wrong I had entered before I went on to where I intended to go.

So I resorted to the My Destinations panel where also yesterday's choices were listed - and in that mode you do not need to key in a start point.

Routing would drive me spare. You pick your route and decide to by-pass a town - how long will the dreaded machine keep telling you to go back?

I am pretty sure Sygic will be no better. At the moment I am waiting for them to tell me how to arrange a route in the order I want and not have it optimised.

I am still confident the Navigon will work as a replacement satnav to the Garmin - and as I never put routes into that either I am no worse off in that respect.

You learn lots and quite quickly in this game!!

Bye for now.

Tony

AliOnHols · Pocket GPS Verifier Joined: Oct 15, 2008 Posts: 1936

HI Tony, I've no experience of Sygic or Navigon other than I tried them and couldn't get on with them. The TT app works as you would expect and does optimise the route for 3 or4 waypoints, but no more. Navigate to PostCodes, addresses, LatLong, POIs, etc. Wait for one of their "Happy Hours" though if you want a bargain.

Edit - and has the ability to easily change the order of (optimised or not) waypoints if so desired.
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C1man · Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:10 am Post subject:

C1man · Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:36 am Post subject:

tonygamble · Regular Visitor Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 186

Tim,

Two handy replies. Thank you.

With regard to the Navigon Fresh problem my reading so far suggests that it cannot 'see' my 7.7 but might do if the 7.7 had a drive letter. I'd pursue that had you not mentioned wifi. When you have a moment to spare can you point me to somewhere explaining how to transfer the route that way.

Second point. Deleting a missed waypoint. I have just looked at that route setting. So, skip will kill the missed waypoint? What does block do, please?

Tony

C1man · Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject:

tonygamble · Regular Visitor Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 186

Thanks Tim,

I have two settings for USB on the 7.7. The only one my PC recognises is the MTP one and I use that for putting files, photos, etc on the 7.7. The other setting is PTP and that doesn't appear on my PC Explorer.

When I use Navigon Fresh it simply says it cannot see the tablet. Maybe you can help my next step?

I can create a route map on Google Maps and if I click, Send, GPS, Navigon it calls up Navigon Fresh.

I then press a Send button there and it makes a file with the extension .freshcontact in an Appdata folder.

If you look at this msg it would seem that the file should go across to Navigon on the tablet and be visible in My Destinations as Imported Addresses:-
http://www.navigon.com/portal/uk/kundenservice/faq.html?content_identifier=faq&id=20475399&page=36

I am sure I could move it from the PC to the tablet with my USB link and Windows Exploret. Where do you think it ought to go on the tablet? I cannot see any likely folder. Can you?

Tony

C1man · Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:43 pm Post subject:

tonygamble · Regular Visitor Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 186

Tim,

Whilst waiting for what you might say I came across this:-
http://www.routeconverter.de/home/en

I managed to get it to accept a Google map but could not get it to Save as a Navigon v4 file which I think is what one needs.

It came back with a 'null' message and a 0k file.

I'm starting to think this is a pointless exercise and that the quicker thing is to work out a route with Google map and then build it on the tablets by creating waypoints at the key points. Maybe the quickest way is to use the grid co-ordinates you find on the Google Map.

And thinking further ahead maybe Navigon Routes are overkill. Take each stage of the journey, find the waypoint and force it so save as a destination and save it as a favourite if one is worried that recent is not strong enough to keep it handy.

EDIT. In fact once one has found a spot using co-ordinates you can save it as a Favourite.

Tony

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