M27 SPECS Speed Cameras [FALSE]

Dave · Last edited by Dave on Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:01 pm; edited 1 time in total

I received a call today from a friend in the motoring industry informing me that several people have mentioned to him about receiving speeding tickets on the M27 and that the S.P.E.C.S cameras are now on and enforcing the National Speed Limit on the motorway (70mph). This is the first I have heard of it, and cannot find anything to substantiate the claim, but if people have started receiving fines and endorsements through the post, this doesn't sound good.

Although the M27 cameras are S.P.E.C.S they have never been used in enforcing traffic speeds, more the traffic flow/management, but we do have some of the cameras listed in our database, and until I hear further I'd urge people to check their speed along the M27 (just in case!) Thumbs Up

Talkingbollox · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:17 pm Post subject:

Dave

Do you know what the deal is with regard to the camera signs and the law? I went down the M27 yesterday and didn't see any SC signs.

Cheers

Dave · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:02 pm Post subject:

The law as I understand it with S.P.E.C.S is that they need to have the Specs symbol next to the cameras. Some counties paint them yellow, some don't though.

Talkingbollox · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:50 pm Post subject:

Can you use that as a defence (i.e. no signs) if you receive a NIP in the post?

Dave · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:36 pm Post subject:

You could try, but from my recollection I believe someone already tried that, and the magistrate came back with "But you were travelling illegally above the speed limit, speeding!"

It maybe wrong for lack of signs, or hidden signs, but nothing detracts from the main point is that you were breaking the law whether it was intentional or not, lack of signs shouldn't make a difference unless there were no speed limit signs along that segment of road for several miles and the limit was below what it should usually be for a road of that category.

Dave · Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 7:59 pm Post subject:

Please note, Hampshire Police have an update on their website from the Hampshire and Isle of Wight Safety Camera Partnership that says this is a hoax, just like the M4 hoax.

Following false information circulated to local media, Marion Sinclair, Manager of the Hampshire and Isle of Wight Safety Camera Partnership, said today:

"I can confirm that we do not have SPECS cameras on the M27, or anywhere else in Hampshire or the Isle of Wight for that matter. Nor do we have any plans at this time to install any.

“There was a similar rumour about the M4 earlier this week which caused utter chaos, so it seems as if this is part two of an elaborate hoax.”

http://www.hampshire.police.uk/index.htm?News.htm#camera

Talkingbollox · Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:32 pm Post subject:

That's a weight off my mind, Dave, thanks!

davewave1 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 09, 2004 Posts: 40

There are 3 cameras shown in the db which look like specs type cameras. In view of Hants statement

"I can confirm that we do not have SPECS cameras on the M27, or anywhere else in Hampshire or the Isle of Wight for that matter. Nor do we have any plans at this time to install any.

is it safe to delete these ?

Dave · Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 12:49 pm Post subject:

You can remove them, we will remove them from the database in the near future, same goes for the M3 cameras, these historically have been marker test cameras for us.

7driver · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 23, 2004 Posts: 7

Thanks Dave -- can you (or anyone) confirm the camera numbers of those marker ones (the M3) and the spurious SPECS cameras on the M27? Then I can check I'm deleting the right ones!

Thanks

db

Dave · Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:03 pm Post subject:

All cameras on the M3 and M27 can be removed.

7driver · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 23, 2004 Posts: 7

Just to confirm that is cameras:-
801
802
4059
803
787

ntrance · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:12 am Post subject:

I thought this article may interest you

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/3809479.stm

Al.

davewave1 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 09, 2004 Posts: 40

These seem to have reappeared as SPECS:4A, 4B & 4C. Should they still be ignored?

Darren · Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject:

Yes, we will have these removed (again!) in the next update. Apologies for the confusion!
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