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sakamoto
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: GPS Slim236 Time to Fix Reply with quote

Hallo to all!
I have this fine receivere by a week, and I found a problem:
After 3-4 hours swithed off it takes 4-8 minutes to have the fix!
I tried to remove battery for a night, to do a "cold" reset from GPS Viewer in the evening an let it find the sats for 15-20 minutes...
In the early morning it worked (about 40-50 seconds to fix), but after 4 hours it takes 4 minutes to make the fix!
And this in the same place I arrived in the morning, in an open place without buildings where I got 6-7 sats early (and also of course after the fix).
Is this a "bug" of my receiver?
Thanks a lot for help!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time mine takes a while is if I start moving before the receiver has got a fix. Strangely enough it seems to be slow speeds, ie walking pace, which seems to cause it problems. When I use it for hiking I always make sure I have a fix before I start moving. If I don't do that it can take twenty minutes or more before I get a fix.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tested and I'm wondering !!!
It's as you said, after some hours switched off at the start-up the TTF seems to be :
1. if you are firm in a place it takes the fix in less then a minute.
2. if you're in a car moving it's quite the same.
3. BUT IF you are movin' slow (walking) it takes a lot of minutes to have the fix!

Can someone other confirm this strange behaviour?

Thanks a lot ahardie !!!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar problems the the GR-213 then.....

see GR-213 TTFF discussion
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sakamoto wrote:
I tested and I'm wondering !!!
It's as you said, after some hours switched off at the start-up the TTF seems to be :
1. if you are firm in a place it takes the fix in less then a minute.
2. if you're in a car moving it's quite the same.
3. BUT IF you are movin' slow (walking) it takes a lot of minutes to have the fix!

Can someone other confirm this strange behaviour?

Thanks a lot ahardie !!!


i was starting to think i was doing something wrong - then i read this!

yes. i have the same problem.

anyone else ?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

philmann wrote:
sakamoto wrote:
I tested and I'm wondering !!!
It's as you said, after some hours switched off at the start-up the TTF seems to be :
1. if you are firm in a place it takes the fix in less then a minute.
2. if you're in a car moving it's quite the same.
3. BUT IF you are movin' slow (walking) it takes a lot of minutes to have the fix!

Can someone other confirm this strange behaviour?

Thanks a lot ahardie !!!


i was starting to think i was doing something wrong - then i read this!

yes. i have the same problem.

anyone else ?


perhaps NC_HOLUXUK can help ?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is the same - walk and it never gets the fix. Leave it stationary with a decent sky view and it cold starts in 40 - 45 seconds.
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philmann
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retset wrote:
Mine is the same - walk and it never gets the fix. Leave it stationary with a decent sky view and it cold starts in 40 - 45 seconds.


Presumably this is a fault.
Should we be thinking about returning them?

Is it something fixed by a later firmware version I wonder?

NC_HOLUXUK ? Any advice ?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems to happen with both the wired GR-213 & the BT GR-236, so it is either a Holux thing or a sirfstar 111 thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeProcter wrote:
....... so it is either a Holux thing or a sirfstar 111 thing.


its an annoying thing.
thats for sure.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
My apologies, I have not checked the forum in a couple of days.
Do you all have the latest firmware installed - 3.1.1?
I will talk to our technical department and ask them to have a read of this and see what their suggestions are.
I use a 236 myself and use with either my 4150 or MDA Pro running tomtom5 and my locks are generally pretty fast.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NC_HOLUXUK wrote:
Hi,
Do you all have the latest firmware installed - 3.1.1?
I will talk to our technical department and ask them to have a read of this and see what their suggestions are.

Hi NC_Holux
You have told me - as in Holux UK, that I have the latest firmware in my GR-213 wired gps receiver, and it exhibits the same behaviour - if I don't wait for a fix, then it will take ages to get a fix. Talk to Julie as she knows all about my case.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeProcter wrote:
NC_HOLUXUK wrote:
Hi,
Do you all have the latest firmware installed - 3.1.1?
I will talk to our technical department and ask them to have a read of this and see what their suggestions are.

Hi NC_Holux
You have told me - as in Holux UK, that I have the latest firmware in my GR-213 wired gps receiver, and it exhibits the same behaviour - if I don't wait for a fix, then it will take ages to get a fix. Talk to Julie as she knows all about my case.


I guess this begs the question - "is this a fault?"

It certainly is to me as I use my 236 mainly for walking/geocaching.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NC_Holux,

I am unable to determine either mine or my father's firmware's as we have no BT enabled PC's or PDA's to run a program on. I have posted here http://pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=32701 a query with serial numbers - perhaps you could do me a favour and find out what firmwares we have?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do I find out my firmware version if I do have a BT PDA?

Looked in GPS Viewer but couldnt see it there.
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