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MRCC
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 Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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How about the Navigon 40 or 70 Premium Live models as an alternative to the Garmin? They come with HD Live and TMC - i think you can switch between them. They also allow 2 simultaneous hands-free Bluetooth connections, useful if you have a works phone and a personal one.
I was going to buy one and run it side-by-side with my 540 Live while my Live subscription is still current. But then there was an announcement from Navigon saying they have a major software release in September (not sure if it is a new device too). So I'm now waiting until that is available before giving it as shot. |
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matthewj
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| MRCC wrote: | | How about the Navigon 40 or 70 Premium Live models as an alternative to the Garmin? They come with HD Live and TMC |
The Live option appears to only be in some other EU countries, and not the UK. |
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Mick_1959
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well I am considering a nüLink! 2390 & 3D Traffic Live
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matthewj
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| Mick_1959 wrote: | | well I am considering a nüLink! 2390 & 3D Traffic Live |
I can't see where they are getting the data from. I do like the traffic cameras though! |
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Mick_1959
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DennisN
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| Mick_1959 wrote: | Garmin state
The nüLink! 2390 brings top-end live navigation features with new Garmin 3D traffic which consults over 80 million expert traffic sources across Europe to ensure the best traffic avoidance and live traffic information available |
Oh NOOOOOO!!! Now you've just about put me off Garmin - I've heard that sort of stuff for the last few years from TomTom - "Millions of users putting the maps right, Millions of users putting the Traffic right."
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matthewj
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| Quote: | | The 3D traffic pulls together information from millions of live traffic sensors and expert sources as well as live radio reports to ensure the most accurate information at any time of the day. |
If it would say that it used some specific source (like TrafficMaster), I'd be happy, but using "radio reports"? You mean that someone is sitting listening to all the radio reports in an area and typing them in? I'll keep the TomTom HD if that's how good it's going to be. |
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JohnMulholland
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | The nüLink! 2390 brings top-end live navigation features with new Garmin 3D traffic which consults over 80 million expert traffic sources across Europe to ensure the best traffic avoidance and live traffic information available
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One expert and 79,999,999 SIM cards?
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matthewj
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| JohnMulholland wrote: | | One expert and 79,999,999 SIM cards? |
I think I read somewhere that the TomTom SIM card stuff would be patented, and so not repeatable. Unless of course you pay TomTom for the data, which anyone could do if the price is right.
That said, I don't know where Google get their traffic data from, but it seems reasonably current. |
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Kremmen
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Don't forget pottsy's original comparison where the Garmin traffic data was hopelessly inaccurate.
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Kremmen wrote: | | Don't forget pottsy's original comparison where the Garmin traffic data was hopelessly inaccurate. |
Pottsy's original comparison was between TT 750 and 1005. See opening post |
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DennisN
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| M8TJT wrote: | | Kremmen wrote: | | Don't forget pottsy's original comparison where the Garmin traffic data was hopelessly inaccurate. |
Pottsy's original comparison was between TT 750 and 1005. See opening post |
Bit of lateral thinking - he meant the original comparison here.
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keithmillar
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I've just had this from TT via Facebook -
TomTom wrote: "Hi keith, quick update – we’re currently having management meetings to define the fastest and best solution. Needless to say, we need to implement something that doesn’t create more problems down the line. Our first action will be to increase the range from the current 80km to 120km. Going directly back to the original 160km range is not feasible (for now) due to the much greater detail and volume of incidents we now provide with HD Traffic 5.0 and multiple new data sources. We are currently testing this increase to 120km and if all goes well it will be live on Thursday afternoon (4th August). We are, of course, also investigating other medium and long-term improvements."
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M8TJT
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Yessss, Gocha. I knew if I refered to the OP, then someon would come up with the link that Kremmen forgot to include for the reference of others 
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DennisN
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| keithmillar wrote: | | We are currently testing this increase to 120km and if all goes well it will be live on Thursday afternoon (4th August). We are, of course, also investigating other medium and long-term improvements." |
Do you notice how they are now describing a partial return to what we have already paid for as "an improvement" - on Thursday night they'll be crowing about "New improved HD Traffic!" My head will feel a lot better when I stop banging it against this wall. 
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