A solution for TTS pronunciation for Go models (Loquendo)

[MARViN2003]

I haven't managed to get much further with this.

Yes, putting the edits in the EnglishGbTT.rex file gives the same results.
No I can't get all of the 'semicolon' type pronunciation off on the W&CE map.
Yes it works faultlessly on the UK&RoI map!

[MARViN2003]

Hi all,

I've finally got my replacement 930 back to the state that my old one was in (including getting the 850 maps that I was entitled to under the LMG for the previous unit)

Before I got the map updated though, there were a few very weird things happening with the speech, some road names were being read out as a completely different name (London was spoken as Oakwood road for some bizarre reason) and I think it may have been due to incomaptability of the newer navcore and an old map (810) that came on the unit. It's working fine now the map was updated.

I'll get the rules running on it again and see if I can make any more progress.

At the moment I still have the original cphoneme.dat file in my map dir and B road numbers do not get announced at all (W&CE map), just the road names, but some of the road names near my house actually sound better with this file in place. The rules for the A roads are working, but I haven't thoroughly tested them yet.

[MARViN2003]

OK, here's some more info on the cphoneme.dat file

If it is in place, Loquendo generates a lot of errors in the log file (If you have turned it on)

Mostly complaining about Unknown Phonemes

[layingback]

I believe we are dealing with 2 incompatible systems - or at least 2 systems which no-one has made any attempt to make compatible.

I suspect cphoneme.dat is an old TeleAtlas (actually earlier than that) file to help an Loquendo speak non-English names.

The newer Loquendo can do better without it is hardly surprising, considering that a lot more development on text-to-voice has occurred since.

It rather looks as if each version of TomTom/TeleAtlas/Loquendo gets "made to work" rather than redesigned and redeveloped to work together correctly.

On a totally different tack, I note that the Loquendo 7 docs talk about using punctuation for emphasis in speech. A new feature in ver 7. The way it's written, I just wonder if ! (exclamation mark) after each digit of the road number might make it spit out each number separately - without actually forcing speech mode into letter-by-letter mode, and all the associated issues of getting it back into normal pronunciation mode ...
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[WackyRaces]

So after reading through all 12 pages of this thread and the threads at:-

www.tomtomforums.com/general-tomtom-discussion/21171-how-fix-poor-tts-pronunciation.html

and

Unapproved link removed - DennisN

It would seem that renaming cphoneme.dat to cphoneme.old on the whole only improves things pronunciation wise for anyone using UK supplied TomTom units aimed at the UK market mainly in the UK but adding Marvin's five new defaultEnglishGB.*** text files to the \LoquendoTTS\data directory overcomes the "B two thousand one hundred and twenty six" type road number reading nonsense to make it "B two one two six" but with commas or semi colons now sometimes being added after the road number in the reading out. Apparently this only happens if you have a Western and Central Europe map (as I do) but does not happen with UK & Ireland maps? So DennisN and others appear to have a complete solution but those of us who also drive Sur Le Continent do not.

So in short renaming cphoneme.dat to cphoneme.old is generally beneficial but the five defaultEnglishGB files fix the road number reading errors but add in reading of punctuation after the now correct number reading that we don't want to hear.

I think that seems to fully reflect where we stand now with this issue?

[MARViN2003]

Yes, that about sums it up.

I'll keep trying to get rid of the extra commas etc.

[WackyRaces]

[MARViN2003]

I'll have a go with different rules for B roads and see if that helps. I am guessing that not all B roads (B4070) are stored as they look, maybe there is a space in there...

[DennisN]

[jamsie]

Was looking at that voice thing loquendo or whatever it is, my tom tom go 740 live is also the same when she speaks, especially with gps world cameras, i know what it is now but passengers say what the hell is that meant to be. Now as a complete idiot with folders etc was wondering if you could help me throught this process of installing this fix on my tom tom. I would even call you on your landline or mobile so i could get a step by step guide to doing it.

Many Thanks

Jamsie

[WackyRaces]

[jamsie]

Hi WackyRaces, well thanks for such a quick reply, but the only problem is i didnt understand a word of what you posted, thats how bad i am at this sort of stuff. All i like to do is press a button and presto it is done, renaming folders, linux etc havnt got a clue, so look forward to reading your fix in a day or so

Mnay Thanks

James

[WackyRaces]

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