Caught ?

gem · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: Caught ?

Northumberland Camera (mob) Partnership wrote to 'someone', intending to prosecute for speeding at 35mph in a 30mph street.

As it happens the car was sold some time ago but this is a Censored

waste of time and MUST surely be revenue raising. Evil or Very Mad

I fell off my seat when I saw the apparent speed.

How many people today (between say 10am and 4pm) have not driven at 35 mph?

I believe the camera was a mobile unit as I was able to see the photos from their website. (no road markings and poor quality)

http://www.safespeedforlife.co.uk/view_offence.asp

So, is this a good use of everyones time and energies. It is somewhat perverse that we have an industry devoted to protection from speed cameras. A sign that many in society strongly feel they are there for money and revenue.

And we wonder why we are in a recession. We have a FALSE ECONOMY based on camera fines and now it has CRASHED (the economy, not my car!)

GPS_fan · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: Caught ?

Sallyann · Lifetime Member Joined: Jun 23, 2006 Posts: 768

GPS_fan · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject:

The seller and buyer both have to notify DVLA

An acquaintance of mine had a similar problem when he sold a car to a 'traveller' and the buyer failed to submit their details as the new keeper.

The process of transferring ownership is not completed until both parties have notified DVLA, otherwise there'd be no stopping us all 'selling' our cars.

From Sallyann's link

Sallyann · Lifetime Member Joined: Jun 23, 2006 Posts: 768

GPS_fan · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject:

Rick-uk · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject:

When you notify DVLA that you have sold your vehicle they will write back to you stating that until they receive confirmation of details of the new keeper (slightly different circumstances apply when selling to a trader) you are still regarded as the registered keeper.

That is why it so important to fill in all the Registration document at the time of sale so you cover yourself.

Sallyann · Lifetime Member Joined: Jun 23, 2006 Posts: 768

GPS_fan · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject:

True, but if you had the car before you heard of ANPR etc - and we're drifting off the original topic and I don't want to be seen to be giving anybody ideas.

You are still regarded to be the registered keeper until DVLA receive the new owner's details, as confirmed in the DVLA page to which we were pointed.
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gem · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:25 am Post subject:

I think you are slightly missing the point. Question

DVLA are at fault as all paperwork was issued to them. The car was sold as part exchange to a dealership garage in summer 2008 (car was 1 yr old) and then subsequently would have been sold or auctioned by them.

My gripe is that the police mafia camera squad are trying to get monies and harass someone for 35mph. The mafia apparently were given the old driver (me) and address details. So I can laugh this intention to prosecute back to the sender.

All for a poxy 5 mph above some arbitrary 30.0mph limit.

No wonder this country's economy is failing if it is based on camera fines!

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GPS_fan · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:46 am Post subject:

MaFt · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:49 am Post subject:

technically you could be done for speeding going at 30.1 mph cos it's over 30mph...

likewise, your car tax being 1 day overdue - well, it's only 1 day... it's still illegal (unless you've bought it online or over the phone and they give you 5 days grace).

yes, speed cameras suck, but you were speeding so it's just tough luck i'm afraid!

another point to note, if you were done for 35mph then chances are your speedo was reading around 38mph or more...

MaFt

Andy_P · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:15 am Post subject:

Sorry for rubbing it in even more, but arguably, the 30 mph limit is the most important one to stick to.
We've all seen the adverts where they point out how a kid is HUGELY more likely to die if they are hit at 35mph than at 25.

Yes it always stings when you get caught at something, but that's life...

gdavison · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 27, 2005 Posts: 45

A few years ago I was caught doing 35 in a 30 and offered Thames Valley "retraining" aka the speed awareness for 60 GBP and no points or the 30 GBP and 3 points .. took the retraining

What was interesting was the focus they did on the 30 to 37 mph speeding range in the 30 zones and how "unsafe" it is ...as this is where something like 50% of accidents happen etc.. It was very focused on a bunch of very corner case examples to indicate an intended message, however I had to admit, there was a level of truth in it .. There where close to 20 attendees of all ages .. and all apart from one had been 35 to 37 in a 30 (one was 70mph in a 60 zone - see end of post because it his story was funny)

Its annoying as hell to be caught doing "only" 35 in a 30, however I was lucky to be offered the "speed awareness" .. I realised it had been 20 plus years since I had got my license and I had had no refreshes , No reviews etc.. In my case that speed awareness taught me a lot and I'm very careful (still) in 30 and 40 zones

* The guy was mid 20's and was caught doing 70 in a 60 .. it was a none dual carriage way .. straight road .. lovely clear day and he was driving along at 65 .. saw the copper stood in yellow vest by road side in the distance as he passed a "national speed limit sign.. thought its a 70 road and accelerated to 70 and drove passed the copper waving a "v" at him and smiling .. 2 weeks later he gets the NIP .. asks his dad why to be "reminded" National speed limit on none dual carriage way is 60. Apparently this is the second most common speeding mistake in the UK

Darren · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:21 am Post subject:

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