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safc Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: Speed Camera submission |
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I submitted 5 new Spec's speed camera's about 3 weeks ago and have a couple of questions and wondered if anyone could help me with the answers.
1. The camera's spotted are Specs, are these included in the free lifetime subscription offer ?
2. My membership expires in 3 days, as i submitted the camera's while still subscribed will i still get my free membership if i don't renew and the camera's are subsequently verified ? (i can see via the map that i was the first to submit)
3. 3 weeks is a long time for the database users to be without important information, is there no quicker way to verify these camera's, as the camera's i have submitted are in roadworks on a motorway i feel that it's important to get them uploaded ASAP so members get the benefit soonest.
Thanks for anticipated replies. |
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falkirk81 Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jul 07, 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Newcastle, England, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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In response to the third point, it all depends on where you submitted them and if/ when a verifier is around to check them. I am based in Newcastle and cover the NE of England. As we do not get paid for verifying, it is done as we travel around the UK.
DennisN has a good write up of a day in the life of a verifier here. _________________ Tomtom GO 1005 LIVE
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john877 Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 16, 2007 Posts: 468
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Speed Camera submission |
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safc wrote: | I submitted 5 new Spec's speed camera's about 3 weeks ago and have a couple of questions and wondered if anyone could help me with the answers.
1. The camera's spotted are Specs, are these included in the free lifetime subscription offer ?
2. My membership expires in 3 days, as i submitted the camera's while still subscribed will i still get my free membership if i don't renew and the camera's are subsequently verified ? (i can see via the map that i was the first to submit)
3. 3 weeks is a long time for the database users to be without important information, is there no quicker way to verify these camera's, as the camera's i have submitted are in roadworks on a motorway i feel that it's important to get them uploaded ASAP so members get the benefit soonest.
Thanks for anticipated replies. |
Do you see the cameras that you have submitted on the submission map
( they would have a coloured square around them with cross hairs)as this would be a good indicator as to if you were the first person submitting these cameras at the correct location .
Specs are included in the lifetime membership offer providing they have been placed correctly on the map |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Speed Camera submission |
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safc wrote: | 1. The camera's spotted are Specs, are these included in the free lifetime subscription offer ? |
Yes
Quote: | 2. My membership expires in 3 days, as i submitted the camera's while still subscribed will i still get my free membership if i don't renew and the camera's are subsequently verified ? (i can see via the map that i was the first to submit) |
Yes, so long as you were a subscriber when you submitted them. You cannot tell that you were the first to report by looking at the submission map though?
Quote: | 3. 3 weeks is a long time for the database users to be without important information, is there no quicker way to verify these camera's, as the camera's i have submitted are in roadworks on a motorway i feel that it's important to get them uploaded ASAP so members get the benefit soonest. |
Of course speed is of the utmost importance but verification depends on many factors. Normally SPECS would be added as provisional unverified 'pSPECS' so that members would have the info prior to verification. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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safc Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I see the square crosshair icons on the map, does this not indicate that i was first ???
Also is there a tolerance on camera position, i was doing 50 MPH when i passed the camera's so getting inch perfect positions is virtually impossible. |
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falkirk81 Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jul 07, 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Newcastle, England, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Back to my original post, where are the cameras located? co ordinates? _________________ Tomtom GO 1005 LIVE
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safc Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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On the M18 between the M62 and the M180, both directions, it's a contra flow that's been present for at least 4 weeks.
Any answer on the tolerance question ??? |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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safc wrote: | Any answer on the tolerance question ??? |
Yes, we appreciate absolute accuracy is impossible so we do allow for some degree of error. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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john877 Lifetime Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Speed Camera submission |
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Darren I always thought that if you were the first to submit a camera in most cases it would be shown on the goggle submission map as a coloured box with cross hairs on it ?? That is what has happened to me in the past when I have submitted a qualifying camera !!this box is only visible to is the original first poster .
I must have got it wrong again ??? |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know that shows 'your' submissions but that is no guarantee that it was the first. Submissions can also be made by email which whilst processed later may by virtue of their received date be earlier than yours. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15226 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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in GENERAL it means it was the first. however, it doesn't mean it is the most accurate, nor does it guarantee a lifetime subscription (although there is a higher chance).
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14901 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Shame, I was on the M18 on 28th October, but sadly didn't get that far as I turned north up the A1(M).
Just for information, I checked fifteen specs submissions today on the M5 near junction 3. Seven were OK and accepted, eight were wrong and were rejected. Somebody (or maybe eight somebodies) saw crosshairs and came to the same conclusion as you, but will be disappointed. I had a similar situation not long ago with 15 or so on the M5 near Bristol.
It's a sort of answer to the tolerance question - MaFt really has not a lot of choice what to admit for verification - that's where we come in and say that of the 15, only 7 are correct - the moving button bashing problem. It is soooo much easier for me to agree that a camera is or is not in the right position than for me to place it as a first time hit - I have them on my satnav just like all the other cameras, different icons and warnings, with the usual countdown distances. I can easily note for it to be brought forward or moved back 100 yards. But when there are three or four hits for the same single camera, somebody's gotta be "wrong".
I submitted four Specs myself on the M6 today too, but was unsure of the locations, so I later pulled into a layby and converted my coordinates into POIs for me to check on the way back - then, sod's law, came home by a different route, so I was unable to check them. _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
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safc Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Thanks all, i'm a little clearer now, i'll just have to wait and see i guess, hopefully while verification is pending others will be careful on the M18 in Yorkshire, i'd hate to see anyone get a ticket !!! |
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