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Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject:
DennisN wrote:
Just in passing, I wonder how it was possible to block it in this manner - normally you (un)block a complete road, we've all said there's no way we can submit a cut off bit haven't we?
Falkirk is partly correct. Some roads are broken up into much smaller sections and if this is the case you can block/unblock one of the short sections. In other cases, the whole road is highlighted red when you access the correction mode - in this case it's all or nothing.
When I was trying to introduce a "recent" (15 month old!) one way system into the middle of Swansea, some of the road sections were only a few yards long
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Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject:
Yes, and it isn't necessarily the same as how much gets highlighted if you tap on a road in map view either.
That section of Gunnersbury Ave. is ALL highlighted if I tap it in map view, but if I go to the correction page as if I was going to block another section, it seems split into quite small chunks.
It is SUCH a main route, I'm sure I would have noticed my route to work being affected if it really wass blocked. All will be revealed tonight, and then I feel another stiff e-mail to TomTom coming on!
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject:
OK I'm home... and waddya think?
Surprise, surprise, TomTom have messed up again. That stretch of Gunnersbury Avenue is completely clear. HOW can they have logged this as "verified by them"?
Now, interestingly enough, Elm Avenue, which is at the southern end of the section in question, IS blocked; by a set of steel bollards where it joins Gunnersbury Avenue. But TT doesn't know about that either, you can plan a route straight down it.
Can I suggest we ALL:
1. unblock Gunnersbury ave and
2. either do a "cannot turn left into" and a "cannot turn right into" Elm Avenue from the main road, or do it as a "Report other error" (because it ISN'T blocked along its length, you just can't get in or out at that end).
GerryC, do you want to tell TomTom, or shall I? (or both! )
Edit: Hooray! just made my corrections and found "my own" corrections outweigh TomTom's ones, so routing is now back to normal.
Incidentally, I've done 5 (!) mapshare corrections: apart from unblocking the main road, I've done "cannot turn left into Elm Avenue", "cannot turn right into Elm Avenue", "cannot turn left out of Elm Avenue", and "cannot turn right out of Elm Avenue". I wish they had a "block the end of this road" option, that's the correction I most often see needs doing in London.
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14901 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:11 am Post subject:
All of us here (that's GO720 #6 and GO720 #7) have unblocked Gunnersbury Avenue, because your correction didn't reach us. We have also resubmitted the corrections one of us submitted via GO720 #3 or #4 (we can't remember), because they too have not reached us. We DO have both our devices set to accept corrections from TomTom, DickDick, HarryHarry and Uncle Tom Cobley and all. We respectfully suggest we've done our bit here without having to duplicate the matters of left and right turn into and out of Elm Avenue - we're tired. Of course, neither of us (being merely 3 days and 3 hours old respectively) have yet obtained our free Latest Map Guarantees. We've decided we shall be able to verify each other's map corrections, but shall NOT stoop so low as to register separately and verify each other's pgpsw speed camera submissions (it's hard enough keeping track of all the GO720 email addresses and passwords already - our bluetack on our secret list of them stuck to the wall is getting dangerously close to stripping the wallpaper with all the upping and downing for additions and alterations). _________________ Dennis
Joined: Mar 01, 2005 Posts: 1513 Location: West Mids
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject:
Thanks Andy
I've also done the unblock and no left/right turns and just got an update. According to TomTom confirmed changes, it's now UNBLOCKED. though the turns are still allowed.
It does make you wonder what the difference is therefore between TomTom actually confirming a change themselves and enough people making the change on their own units (reasonable if I was using "trusted sources", "many" or "some" options).
AndyP_2002 wrote:
I wish they had a "block the end of this road" option, that's the correction I most often see needs doing in London.
Nearest I can think of is "Street is in the wrong place" then say why in the free text as one end is in the wrong place - should not get as far as Gunnersbury Ave. _________________ Gerry
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I've tried a few blocks, but haven't experiemented enough to fully understand what it can and can't do so I appreciate you guys sharing your knowledge with us
Joined: Jul 07, 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Newcastle, England, UK
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject:
Anyone noticed the "chyll edge/ghyll edge" change yet? its at N55.17049, W1.71168.
EDIT: scrap that question, on my tomtom with the setting "verified by tomtom" only selected for mapshare changes to be used, it has now been corrected!!! so i guess we managed to get enough of us to do it that it made a difference! _________________ Tomtom GO 1005 LIVE
Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 3219 Location: Windlesham, Surrey
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject:
falkirk81 wrote:
Anyone noticed the "chyll edge/ghyll edge" change yet? its at N55.17049, W1.71168.
EDIT: scrap that question, on my tomtom with the setting "verified by tomtom" only selected for mapshare changes to be used, it has now been corrected!!! so i guess we managed to get enough of us to do it that it made a difference!
With 'verified by TomTom' only selected, if I 'Navigate to' using the 'Address' option and enter 'Morpeth' as the city, when I enter 'Gh' as the street I get offered 'Ghyll Edge (Chyll Edge)' - three times!
Maybe we managed to get too many of us to do it. _________________ Anita
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Joined: Jul 07, 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Newcastle, England, UK
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject:
well if i search for it using the city, then street name, it comes up twice and has the old "chyll edge" next to it in brackets. maybe thats to indicate that i was known as a previous name? Also, you can still search for "chyll edge" as the street name and it doesnt mention that its been edited to anything else :S _________________ Tomtom GO 1005 LIVE
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject:
falkirk81 wrote:
Ive unblocked that "blocked" road as mentioned above. also done the "no left and right turn onto" correction.
How can you do a "no left/right turn"? I can't find that on my list of acceptable corrections
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Joined: Jul 07, 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Newcastle, England, UK
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject:
Robin2 wrote:
falkirk81 wrote:
Ive unblocked that "blocked" road as mentioned above. also done the "no left and right turn onto" correction.
How can you do a "no left/right turn"? I can't find that on my list of acceptable corrections
Robin
Its a feature that only sends the info you suggest to tomtom, but itsnt impemented immediately on your tomtom, like how a blocked road would be blocked on your map straight away.
To signal a "no left or right turn" you would do it like this:
1. go to map corrections
2. correct a map error
3. report other error
4. existing street
5. then select the street in question however you choose and select done
6. then the "type of error" selection begins.
From here you can choose from several options which i`ll not post here. But its from here you can select "cannot turn left onto..."
Then you select which road you cannot turn left onto from the original road you chose in point 5 above.
Hope thats clear, done it v quickly! :p _________________ Tomtom GO 1005 LIVE
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject:
falkirk81 wrote:
To signal a "no left or right turn" you would do it like this:
1. go to map corrections
2. correct a map error
3. report other error
4. existing street
5. then select the street in question however you choose and select done
6. then the "type of error" selection begins.
From here you can choose from several options which i`ll not post here. But its from here you can select "cannot turn left onto..."
Ah thanks - I had not burrowed deeply enough into that sub-menu
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though the turns are still allowed. 
