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HansWeinberg Occasional Visitor
Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:02 am Post subject: Switzerland covered? |
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Hi, before I subscribe to the cameras, are also the cameras in Switzerland included? in TomToms Plus services Switzerland was just removed.
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: |
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NO.
Speed camera warnings are ILLEGAL in Switzerland _________________ Andy
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 1964 Location: Surrey, UK.
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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I think you might find four cameras listed for switzerland on the database, I know because I put them there. The problem is that there arn't that many subscribers that visit switzerland to report them, only me I think!
And GPS_fan is right the swizz swiss just made the use of gps devices that can run these databases illegal.
Hans - If you are going there mabye you could report some cameras so when I go I'll confirm them for you and you'll then get free lifetime membership.
:D _________________ Dom
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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There are many things that are illegal to use but not supply or own. Currently we are happy to collate locations of safety cameras in Switzerland and will make them available but anyone who chooses to use them whilst in Switzerland should do so only if they are aware of the legality and risks associated with such use. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like conspiracy to assist in a crime! (Runs and hides...)
EDIT: Not as daft as it might seem... Under our OWN laws, you can now be arrested under the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act for carrying any written article that appears to be "politically motivated".
Whatever you have in your pocket - Private Eye, a newspaper clipping or a copy of Orwell's 1984, can now be used by the police as evidence of criminal intent under SOCPA.
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | On January 10th a law went into effect banning the use of a navigation device to warn of speed surveillance locations, and police now have the authority to stop drivers using their GPS units for such a purpose, confiscate and destroy the device and fine the driver — we hate to see what they do to people who read books and feel emotion. As far as we can tell, it’s not actually illegal to own such a device, just illegal to use it for such a nefarious purpose, but at the same time Swiss government has issued a list of “illegal” navigation systems for retailers to remove from their shelves, including devices from TomTom, Garmin, Mio, Navman, Medion, Route66, Packard Bell, Sony and ViaMichelin. | http://www.churbuck.com/wordpress/?p=1034
Quote: | Now the Swiss government is fighting back, announcing that several GPS devices are now illegal, because they can be used to help drivers avoid these cameras. It's easy to see other governments following suit, just as radar detectors were roundly banned after they got too popular. Still, it's going to be hard to enforce this ban. While they can ban certain makes of GPS devices, it's going to be tougher to prevent someone from downloading the same application to a GPS-enabled handset that sets of an alarm whenever the car nears a danger zone. | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070212/075138.shtml _________________ Andy
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 1964 Location: Surrey, UK.
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I the aformentioned use hearby agree to own and use this database at my own risk. I also heaby with all of my ability do attempt upon the next availablity to collect all speed cameras from the switz.
Might be difficult to get through customs though, as I only have a small boot.
:D
note: I just e-mail the swiss tourist office for some more information on this! watch this space. _________________ Dom
HERE LIES PND May it rest in peace.
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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If you don't speed, you won't get caught by a camera anyway.
This debate could just go on and on, so I'm going to bow out gracefully having given the information at my disposal. _________________ Andy
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RobBrady Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jul 21, 2004 Posts: 2718 Location: Chelmsford, UK
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if it's illegal to memorize where the cameras are? I also wonder where the Swiss stand on thought crime? :P _________________ Robert Brady |
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